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Remembering Quincy Jones

Tue, 05 Nov 2024

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We remember renowned composer, arranger and producer Quincy Jones and listen back to Terry Gross's 2001 interview with him. He died Sunday at the age of 91. He got his start playing with Ray Charles when they were both in their teens. Jones became famous as an arranger and producer for musicians including Ray Charles, Frank Sinatra, Aretha Franklin, and Michael Jackson on his albums Bad, Off the Wall and Thriller.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: Who was Quincy Jones and why is he significant?

0.069 - 24.448 Terry Gross

This is Fresh Air. I'm Terry Gross. Today, we remember Quincy Jones. He died Sunday at the age of 91. In his New York Times obit, music critic Ben Ratliff described Jones as one of the most powerful forces in American popular music for more than a century. Jones started his career as a trumpeter in Lionel Hampton's big band in the early 50s, but he never became a noted instrumentalist.

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24.869 - 35.581 Terry Gross

What made him famous and wealthy was his work as an arranger, composer, and record producer, work that spans from the big bands through bebop, pop, movie soundtracks, TV themes, and hip-hop.

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36.241 - 60.148 Terry Gross

He arranged or produced recordings for Sinatra, Ray Charles, Aretha, Dinah Washington, George Benson, and Ice-T, and he produced the Michael Jackson albums Off the Wall, Bad, and the best-selling album of all time, Thriller. His music has been sampled in many hip-hop recordings, and his 1962 recording, Soul Bossa Nova, was used as the theme to the Austin Powers films.

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60.688 - 84.453 Terry Gross

The multimedia company Quincy Jones Entertainment produced the sitcoms The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, In the House, and the sketch show Mad TV. I spoke with him in 2001, after the release of his memoir, Q, and a four-CD box set by the same name of music featuring him as a trumpeter, arranger, composer, or producer. We started with a sampling of tracks from that collection.

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85.049 - 97.472 Unknown Actor

Another bride, another June, another sunny honeymoon. Another season, another reason for making whoopee.

100.912 - 127.688 Unknown Actor

Look at me. I'm as helpless as a kitten up a tree. And I feel like I'm clinging to a cloud. I can't understand. I get misty just holding your hand.

139.575 - 157.63 Unknown Actor

I never cared much for moonlit skies I never winked back at fireflies But now that the stars are in your eyes I'm beginning to see the light I never went in

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fly me to the moon let me play among the stars let me see what spring is like on jupiter and mars in other words hold my hand In other words, baby kiss me.

269.383 - 287.653 Terry Gross

That's a sampling of music from the four-CD box set Q that was released at the same time as his memoir Q. That was back in 2001, when I spoke with him. One of the first musicians he became good friends with was Ray Charles. They met when Charles was 16 and Jones was 14. I asked Quincy Jones how they met.

Chapter 2: What were Quincy Jones' early musical influences?

561.519 - 571.268 Terry Gross

Your first important music job was with the Lionel Hampton Big Band. You got that job while you were still in high school. How did he hire you when you were still in school?

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572.523 - 592.951 Quincy Jones

I had written a suite that I'd been working on for a long time called From the Four Winds. And it was almost a descriptive piece. And I didn't understand theory too well then. But I just went straight. It didn't stop me from writing. I didn't understand key signatures or anything. And I would say silly things on the top of a trumpet part like...

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593.731 - 616.404 Quincy Jones

A note, when you play B naturals, make the B naturals a half step lower because they sound funny if they're B naturals. And some guy said, idiot, just put a flat on the third line and it's a key signature. Because it didn't bother me that I didn't understand it because I knew eventually I'd learn it. And so I gave this arrangement to, submitted this to Lionel Hampton.

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616.984 - 631.368 Quincy Jones

And he said, you wrote this, huh? I said, yeah. He played trumpet too. He said, yeah. Well, he said, how'd you like to join my band, please? I said, are you kidding? And so they had little brown leather bags for your trumpet then. I had that and just very few toilet articles and so forth.

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631.772 - 647.082 Quincy Jones

And I went and sat on that bus so nobody would change their mind, and I wouldn't have to ask the people at home whether I could go or not. And sure enough, everybody got on one by one. Hamp said hi, and I felt secure. Then Gladys Hampton got on the bus and said, uh-uh.

648.223 - 671.746 Quincy Jones

what is that child doing on this bus and she said no son you get off the bus and so we'll try to talk later but you go to school and uh i was destroyed and so i got a scholarship to boston to the berkeley college of music and uh i got the call a friend named janet thurlow was singing with the band and she reminded them And they called and said, we'd like you to be with the band.

671.786 - 680.293 Quincy Jones

I was 18 then, and I was ready. I was told at school I'd be back. I guess down inside, you know when you go with a band like that, you never go back.

681.034 - 694.866 Terry Gross

Now, you said that you were afraid that when you were playing with Hampton that Parker or Thelonious Monk might show up in the audience, and you were worried they'd laugh at what you had to wear in the band. What did you have to wear in the Hampton band?

695.273 - 713.253 Quincy Jones

Well, that incident happened when we were playing at a place on Broadway called right next door to Birdland. I mean, totally adjacent. And both places were downstairs. And we had to wear Tyrolean hats, purple shawl collared coats, and Bermuda shorts.

Chapter 3: How did Quincy Jones meet Ray Charles?

1523.062 - 1544.211 Quincy Jones

And so we came home all excited about this new music. They had moved the clave beat, which is really like the foundation of Latin music, straight up and down Latin America. That's the foundation of the clave beat. It's the guiding force. And I wanted to record some of this stuff.

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1546.294 - 1571.789 Quincy Jones

So I made a thing called Big Band Bossa Nova, and I wrote into about 20 minutes, this is 1962, a tune called Soul Bossa Nova. We had Brazilian rhythm section and everything else, and I guess 38 years passed. Now, Austin Powers is this huge star, and he's stuck with this thing. This is his theme forever. Da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da.

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1572.47 - 1582.9 Quincy Jones

And it's amazing, because they did two movies with the theme, and he opened it with a marching band playing it the first time. Now, he wants me to be in the next film.

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1583.74 - 1595.846 Terry Gross

So were you flattered when you found out that Mike Myers wanted to use your soul bossa nova as the theme for Austin Powers? Or did you think, oh, now it's going to be camp. Now it's going to be seen as camp.

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1596.126 - 1616.284 Quincy Jones

Well, it was camp. But, you know, it doesn't matter, though, because, you know, a tune like that was kind of a campy tune anyway. So I loved it, you know. I was very happy that he found a whole new... a home for this, you know, in this generation.

1616.845 - 1622.753 Terry Gross

Well, let's hear your 1962 recording of Sol Bossa Nova, which later became the theme for Austin Powers.

1643.905 - 1644.408 Unknown Actor

Thank you.

1699.602 - 1723.805 Terry Gross

That's Quincy Jones' 1962 recording of his composition Sol Bossa Nova, also known now as the theme for Austin Powers. Other music you were doing in the 1960s, you also had a pop music career. One of your biggest successes was Leslie Gore. You produced her first big hit, It's My Party, and produced other records of hers as well. Tell us how you discovered Leslie Gore.

1725.049 - 1751.048 Quincy Jones

Well, it was sort of a challenge, really, because I had come back from Europe, and I had lost a lot of money, and I had to say, Irving Green, the president of Mercury, said, come over here as an A&R man, because you are an artist on Mercury anyway, an artist in repertoire. He hired me, and he promoted me to vice president. And

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