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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Future Proof with Jonathan Macrae. Proudly supported by Research Ireland. On Newstalk. Hello and welcome to Future Proof, the podcast. This is the show where we take a closer look at the world around us. I'm Jonathan Macrae. I thank you, as always, for everyone who listens, shares, talks about the podcast.
Lovely gentleman on the plane yesterday, he just tapped me on the shoulder and said, I don't want to bother you, but just love the podcast. More of that as well. That's awesome. I really, I was very touched. It's always nice when people stop and say hello. So thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Coming up on this week's program, we're going to be talking about warp drives.
So yes, this is Star Trek. And yes, it's a bit nerdy, right? But the mathematics, the underlying mathematics and physics behind warp drives is sound. And on this week's program, we're going to be speaking to an astrophysicist who's trying to figure out the physics and maths behind to make them a reality. It's blue sky research. I just want to say that. But it's also pretty cool.
First, though, it's time to look back at some of the more interesting stories from the World of Science this week. We're joined by Professor Annie Curtis from RCSI and from UCD, Dr. Shane Bergen. Shane, our first story has to do with Mars. And I don't know how many times we've played that song. Aidan's a big Bowie fan, our producer, and a big Star Trek fan. So this show is covered with him.
But this is a story about potential life on Mars.
Maybe, right? If we discover that life once existed or exists on an alien world, perhaps it'll be the most profound scientific discovery ever. And it seems that we're kind of inching towards this discovery, which is really frustrating from a science communication point of view, but perhaps shows how science really works, which is gradual.
And what's happened here is that the Curiosity rover, the car-shaped rover, little truck that's trundling along the surface of Mars, has discovered five molecules in a dry lake bed.
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Chapter 2: What is the concept of a warp drive?
And it's thought that they are three and a half billion years old, which is remarkable that they have survived this long. And they are what's called an organic molecule. So it's a complex molecule that has a lot of carbon in it. And what they're trying to figure out now is how did it get there?
And might this be the kind of the blueprint or the fingerprint of life that may have once existed on Mars? It can get us so close to an answer, but because curiosity is kind of only packed with so many scientific instruments, it's not able to tell if these molecules came from a geological process, which is possible, or they came from a meteorite that would have hit Mars.
Chapter 3: How does the physics of warp drives relate to general relativity?
And it's thought that, you know, in that time that meteorites with organic complex molecules would have been bombarding the Earth and Mars and other places. So we don't know whether it's sort of a precursor or a remnant of something that was once alive or whether it is just from outer space.
Yeah, because I mean, the concept of organic life coming to Earth is one of the hypotheses that actually it was brought from comets or other things. Like culture. Celestial whizzy bits, right? Yeah. And so that would very much explain why we have that in Mars. But you talked about, you know, how would it come out of geological reason? I mean, if life originated in Earth...
then it must have only come from geological forces, right? Which I always find crazy that we're walking around and, you know, we're looking at our iPhones and there's, you know, monkeys in the trees and birds in the air. And theoretically, if life didn't come to us, all that came from rocks. Yeah, absolutely. Actual inert rocks. That is absolutely bonkers.
And so the two ideas we have is that life came here and life came from rocks. And so either way, that Mars thing is...
It's really cool. It's doable. Yeah, now they did find a particular molecule, a biomolecule called benzothiophene, which is sulfur containing, and it's known that they tend to come from meteors. But they also found a nitrogen-bearing organic molecule that has a structure that's very similar to DNA. Yes, but what they're saying here crucially is these are the bricks.
This does not indicate that they ever got to build a house. So in other words, and we still don't understand, and Annie will know an awful lot more about this than I do, but we don't understand how we went from chemistry to biochemistry. And that's fundamental. We just don't know. Otherwise, we would be able to synthetically create life. Yeah, very interesting.
Very interesting. Annie, our second story is authored by your good self.
Well, me and another PI who's down in Trinity called David Hoey. And I have to give probably credit to the postdoc who worked on this. Her name was Jan Sue Gorgon, who's now gone back to the University of Genoa and has a position there. So it was kind of a real combinatory effect. So what we were wondering about is bones, right, and how bones heal when they're broken.
And this is a big issue because 10% of fractures don't heal. And you can have two types of fractures that don't heal. One is a non-union fracture, which never heals. And then you have a delayed fracture, which will heal, but it takes a long time.
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Chapter 4: What are the challenges in creating a warp drive?
For any fracture, yeah, we could use that.
Are you going to be a millionaire? Are we going to have investment options of your spin out? Take a look at this space. There we go. Shane, our third story has to do with bogus medical claims.
Yeah, so we read all the time that scientists are amongst the most trustworthy profession. The problem is, is that people also trust other sources of information, right? And this story, which is from Edelman, which is a private company, but it's reported in Nature, says that a staggering number of people believe unproven claims about health and science.
From their survey, they said that two thirds of people, 16,000 of whom were surveyed, believe at least one bogus issue, such as raw milk is healthier than pasteurised milk or paracetamol when pregnant may cause autism. Fluoride is bad for you. Childhood vaccines are dodgy, etc. Right. The classics. Raw milk isn't better for you. No.
No, raw milk is... We're the two out of three. We're the perfect thing. Two out of three. Right, there you are. Well, I mean, I don't know.
I haven't looked into it. And maybe, you know what, you put your finger on it, right? Because whilst the number of people who believe that they're true ranges from 32% of people believe that animal protein is healthier than plant-based protein, that's the highest, Down to 25% of people believe that vaccines are used to control the population.
I feel what's more interesting is the number or percentage of people that talk about not knowing. And so it's 39% of people said they didn't know whether paracetamol may cause autism in pregnancy for fetuses. And down to 17% of people saying that they weren't sure about the efficacy of vaccines.
So maybe what this, I think it's very interesting that we have these statistics that say scientists are trustworthy, yet we know in the real world that that doesn't translate into us all kind of doing things and having policies that reflect that.
Yeah. There is a major responsibility, I think, from people who have platforms to understand. And it's so easy now for someone to say, this person wants to come on my podcast. This person wants to come on my radio show. You know, is what they're saying backed up in evidence? I mean, an AI can do that pretty well. You know, say, look, we don't know.
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Chapter 5: How does negative energy factor into warp drive theory?
It was a metabolite of cocaine that was doing the danger. Right. And so they did a study like more of a control study, as you're talking about with the email that you had, whereas they basically put kind of a backpack on. on the fish and one backpack released the coke or the metabolite or the other backpack released nothing. How would you put a backpack on a fish? Well, I'm just saying backpack.
There are so many questions to this study. And I think we should take the time to answer them.
I'm thinking of sea ledge.
But just out of interest, like, you know, predators need to prey on salmon, but you could give a few salmon a bit of coke if... they're going to make it all the way into the swimming pools. Because, you know, there is, you know, it's harder.
You know the way Finding Nemo went over the ledge?
It's harder for salmon to get to where they need to be. Salmon sucks.
But it's just changing the biodiversity. So when they did the study with the backpacks, they could really see that the fish that had the cocaine and the metabolite being released were definitely swimming further, you know, a little bit more jittery than the other fish.
What about delayed release? You give them cocaine first and then when they get close, just release some like marijuana or something. I don't know. I know nothing about this subject. I'm just very interested. Like an upper, then a downer to get them there and then slow them back down.
I don't know. It just seems like we're kind of messing with pharmaceutical agents. It seems like a crazy study. It does seem like a crazy study. And I suppose we're not thin-eased with it. I was actually, when I was on the bike, I was trying to think. Please stop talking.
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Chapter 6: What happens when a warp bubble collapses?
some other civilizations may have built the technology before us. Is it possible to, if someone's snapping space out there, is there any chance we might be able to see it on our telescopes?
Well, so this was exactly the question that we asked ourselves when we did these simulations. We thought about the case where, you know, as you say, maybe we haven't got the technology to build a warp bubble, but maybe someone else out there in the galaxy has. And so what we can do is we can simulate these warp bubbles and in particular simulate when they kind of turn off, when they collapse.
And that generates gravitational waves. So because space and time is stretchy and being stretched and squashed, when you turn the warp drive off, when it collapses, it actually creates ripples that travel through space and time.
For sure.
And they would reach us here on Earth. And we, quite excitingly, we have the technology to detect those gravitational waves. So we've had for the past 10 years the ability to see gravitational waves coming from black holes merging with each other. The question was, you know, could we use those same detectors to see ripples from alien spaceships?
And the answer is...
And the answer is, well, unfortunately, probably not. But actually for an interesting reason. So although actually the signals would be quite loud, they would be at the wrong frequency. So if you have a ā well, so we assumed that our spaceship was about a kilometer big, which is consistent with Star Trek. And the Enterprise E is a kilometer across. Oh, boy. Yeah.
You're deep in there, Katie. You're deep in there.
I know, I know. We had a lot of fun with the project, I have to say.
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