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Anger in Australia after 'evil' Hanukkah shooting

15 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 3.696 Paul Moss

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36.025 - 42.695 Paul Moss

A scam exploiting vulnerable families with sick children. I would have done anything to get the medicine for Khalil.

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The child is directed on camera to plead for help.

46.521 - 48.684 Chris Minns

I want to be a normal kid.

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I want to go to school. They were going to upload it to social media.

52.63 - 62.505 Paul Moss

Millions of dollars pour in, but the families never receive the money. He told us it wasn't successful. As I understood it, the video just didn't make any money.

62.565 - 65.509 Bill Baker

They used to raise funds for their own benefit.

Chapter 2: What happened during the deadly Hanukkah shooting in Australia?

420.181 - 434.756 Dr. Josh Roos

There's been a refusal to countenance the severity of the threat, and it's been framed in some quarters as Jewish Australians whinging and making a mountain out of a molehill. This isn't as bad as they're saying, and we clearly know now that it is.

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435.176 - 441.282 Danny Vincent

Do you expect many other cells to be active in Australia?

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441.43 - 461.363 Dr. Josh Roos

This has been ongoing for a prolonged period of time. Australia, 10 to 15 years ago during the Islamic State, produced more foreign fighters per head of population than any other Western country. This isn't an issue with the Muslim community, but it is an issue with radicalised elements, particularly young second and third generation Australian Muslims who are...

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461.343 - 481.309 Dr. Josh Roos

unfortunately able to be radicalised online, but also through current events. To that extent, this has been an ongoing issue. And unfortunately, authorities have to balance this with what's going on with the extreme right. We have a significant neo-Nazi threat now in Australia, with many of these movements are individuals targeting Jewish communities. for threats online and abuse and harassment.

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481.87 - 495.472 Dr. Josh Roos

And so Australia's Jewish communities are being effectively wedged between neo-Nazis and Salafi jihadists on the other hand. And keeping an eye on that threat from the Australian government level is not only incredibly resource intensive, but deeply challenging.

495.932 - 502.082 Paul Moss

And you mentioned that the Australian government hasn't done enough. What more should they have done before now?

502.332 - 521.878 Dr. Josh Roos

The Australian government has attempted to play this off as another form of racism. For example, in appointing the anti-Semitism envoy when Australians were communicating their challenges and the rapid increase in the hostility that they were facing, They felt a need to balance this out by appointing, for example, an Islamophobia envoy.

522.058 - 530.532 Dr. Josh Roos

That when the anti-Semitism envoy has released findings, they've failed to engage adequately with what that actually meant and to actually implement those findings.

530.873 - 551.226 Paul Moss

Dr John Roos. In the aftermath of the attack, police have provided more information about the shooters. The father was foreign-born and arrived in Australia in 1998 on a student visa. He legally owned several guns and was a member of a shooting club. He died at the scene. His 24-year-old Australian-born son is in custody.

Chapter 3: How is the Australian government responding to antisemitism after the shooting?

784.803 - 809.141 Paul Moss

In 1996, 35 people died at a place called Port Arthur on the island state of Tasmania. That prompted sweeping gun control measures. And once again, with an atrocity like this, in a place like this, at a political situation like this, you'd have to say that further scrutiny of Australia's gun control measures will be an inevitable consequence of this. Phil Mercer in Sydney.

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And since I spoke to Phil, the Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, has said he will pursue tougher gun laws. The choice in Chile could not have been more stark. When voters went to the polls on Sunday, they had two candidates for president. On the one hand, a communist. On the other, a man usually described as far-right.

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828.38 - 849.142 Paul Moss

José Antonio Kast is the son of a German Nazi party member, and he's expressed admiration for Augusto Pinochet, the country's one-time dictator. He's promised to crack down on crime and deport illegal immigrants. And that apparently has paid dividends at the ballot box, giving him victory by what seems to be an unexpectedly high margin.

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849.162 - 852.806 Paul Moss

The Communist Party candidate, Hanet Hara, was quick to concede.

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I want to tell you all that today, democracy has spoken loud and clear. I contacted the president-elect, José Antonio Kast, to wish him success for the good of Chile and all the people living in our country.

867.199 - 871.864 Paul Moss

In a victory speech in Santiago, Mr. Kast set out his priorities for office.

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We are going to restore the rule of law. We are going to restore respect for the law in all regions, without exception, without privileges. No political privileges, no administrative privileges, no judicial privileges. Because it is the citizens we must serve, not those who hold positions of power.

897.629 - 916.782 Paul Moss

Our South America correspondent, Ione Wells, has been following the election, and she gave me this update from the Chilean capital, Santiago. It's very clear at this point that José Antonio Cast is going to be Chile's next president. He won decisively with more than 58% of the vote in his third attempt at running for president.

917.403 - 939.474 Paul Moss

Earlier, I was in a crowd of his supporters where they had gathered to watch the results come in in Santiago, many of them draped in Chile flags, some wearing red caps saying, make Chile great again. They were cheering and chanting when that result came through. Some of them told me that they had been waiting for this moment for years, given his previous attempts to run for president.

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