Pope Leo issues AI warning

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Oliver Conway 0:00
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Tim Franks 0:48
Hello, I'm Oliver Conway. We're recording this at 16 hours GMT on Monday the 25th of May.

What warning does Pope Leo give about artificial intelligence?

Tim Franks 0:54
Pope Leo warns that artificial intelligence poses a potentially existential risk to humanity. The World Health Organization chief says a delay in detecting Ebola means responders are now playing catch-up. And Saudi Arabia says hajj pilgrims will be safe despite the war in Iran. Also in the podcast.
Riaz Patel 1:16
The idea here is that you could do one treatment once in your life and then hopefully the rest of your time you won't have to worry about high cholesterol causing heart disease.
Tim Franks 1:24
Could a one-off treatment spell the end of high cholesterol? The Pope has sounded a warning about the dangers of artificial intelligence, saying it could pose a potentially existential risk to humanity and calling for more to be done to reduce its impact on the environment. In his first encyclical, or teaching document, entitled Magnifica Humanitas, Leo said that AI shouldn't be allowed to concentrate power in the hands of just a few people, nor used for military purposes.
Artificial intelligence needs to be disarmed. The word is strong, I know, but deliberately chosen because this moment needs words capable of attracting attention, awakening consciences, and indicating paths forward for humanity.
Tim Franks 2:21
The pontiff also said that the idea of a just war, which has recently been used by the Trump administration to justify its attacks on Iran, was outdated. Sitting alongside the Pope was anthropic co-founder Chris Ola, who warned against his own industry acting alone in dictating the development of AI.
Chris Ola 2:41
Some might believe that matters of AI are best handled by computer scientists like myself. They are mistaken. The questions raised by AI are bigger than the AI research community, not just in their implications, but also in their nature. If it helps, one way I sometimes describe this is that it's a little bit like bringing a fictional character to life. And now we're entering an extraordinary world where those fictional characters speak to us, do work, have jobs. This clearly raises questions beyond computer science. The machinery that makes this possible is the work of math and programming and science. But what character we choose, how it interacts with the world, how it ought to interact with the world, these are more clearly questions for the humanities, for religion, for philosophy, for society at large.
Tim Franks 3:26
Elise-Anne Allen is Rome correspondent for the Catholic news website Crooks and a biographer of Leo XIV. What does she make of the Pope's warning?
Elise-Anne Allen 3:35
It was quite strong. And if you read this document, the language that Pope Leo uses is very forceful, sort of in condemning this culture of power, as he described in this tendency to domination. You know, and that's the risk of these technologies now is that they will be used to dominate and ultimately exploit the human person rather than work for their good. So he was very, very firm in his caution in terms of how these technologies work. are used. So it was quite a strong message from Pope Leo today in the document and in the speech that we just heard. He didn't hold back on either of those occasions.
Comparing it to the potential ghastliness of slavery, and which he said the Catholic Church was all too slow in condemning, but suggesting that AI could create new forms of enslavement is a very strong way of trying to impart that message about the potential peril.
Elise-Anne Allen 4:28
I think that this is probably, for myself, one of the key aspects of this document is the potential for new forms of slavery in the digital era. This is something that the Catholic Church was talking about even before COVID-19. And then I think they saw a boom in the online exploitation industry, where it became much easier for exploitation online, cyberbullying, Specifically, the online sexual exploitation of children is something that tragically became a more common phenomenon during that time.

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