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Global News Podcast

Russia continues bombing as peace talks with Ukraine begin

04 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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6.241 - 35.587 Unknown

Huhujen mukaan jotkut käyttävät siipiveikkojen kastikkeita kuin ketsuppia. Ja meiän ne tieten väärässä ole. Nimittäin siipiveikkojen kastikkeet sopivat makaronlaatikkoihin, takoihin, salaatteihin, you name it. Niin ja tieten myös niihin siipiin. Uusimpana tulokkana kauppojen hyllyltä löytyy siipiveikkojen manga-apaneerokastikin. Makea ei liian ja pienen pienellä poltteella varustettu kaveri. Testaappa. Siipiveikot. Aivan jäätävä jingle.

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37.105 - 64.223 Emily Thomas

Hei, mikä tekee K-autosta autoalan edelläkävijän? Me rikotaan alan ennakkoluuloja asiakasmielessä. Katse on tuulilasissa, eikä peräpeilissä. Let's go! K-auto uudistaa autoalaa rohkeasti autokerrallaan. Tutustu kuramahdollisuuksiin K-autossa ja muualla K-ryhmässä. Kesko.fi kautta Lexko. This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service.

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Chapter 2: What are the latest developments in the Russia-Ukraine peace talks?

65.067 - 91.443 Emily Thomas

I'm Emily Thomas and at 16 hours GMT on Wednesday the 4th of February, these are our main stories. There's little hope of a breakthrough between warring Russia and Ukraine at peace talks in Abu Dhabi. Dozens of people are feared dead and the death toll is still rising after armed gangs attacked a remote village in central Nigeria. And women are for the first time officially allowed to ride motorbikes in Iran.

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94.598 - 110.174 Makwachi Okafo

Also in this podcast. The former child refugees walking the length of Britain to highlight the war in South Sudan.

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116.182 - 143.418 Emily Thomas

It's not been the best start to peace talks to try to end the war in Ukraine nearly four years after Russia launched its full-scale invasion. Ukrainian and Russian negotiators are in Abu Dhabi for the US-brokered negotiations, but the Kremlin said that the war will continue until Kiev agrees to Moscow's terms. President Putin wants the land his forces have captured and more. President Zelensky has rejected any withdrawal of Ukrainian forces.

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143.418 - 173.253 Emily Thomas

In the meantime, Russia is continuing to attack Ukraine's energy infrastructure. Irina Vovk is a resident in Kiev.

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Chapter 3: How has violence surged in central Nigeria recently?

173.624 - 199.055 Emily Thomas

And now I'm thinking that maybe in some days later I must go to the village to my parents, because here in Kiev living is very awful. So what hope is there for the latest talks? General Keith Kellogg was President Trump's envoy to Ukraine until his term ended last month. He said Ukraine might have to give up some land, at least in the short term.

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199.055 - 214.242 General Keith Kellogg

Mennään takaisin Baltiikkiin vuoden vuoden 2, kun Lithuania, Estonia ja Latvia olivat soviittisen kontrollissa. Meillä ei ole koskaan sanottu, että ne olivat soviittisia. Me emme tunneet, että ne olivat. Kun maa on loppunut, toivottavasti se tulee takaisin.

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214.242 - 235.69 General Keith Kellogg

Mielestäni täytyy katsoa tulevaisuuteen. Ja mitä he todella puhuvat, ainakin Venäjällä, puhuvat Luhanskista, joka on 98 prosenttia kontrollinen, Donetskista, joka on noin 70 prosenttia kontrollinen, ja Kursanin ja Zaporizhiaan. Nämä ovat neljä ohjelmaa. Jos voit, Crimea, ne ovat neljä ohjelmaa. Ja ehkä se olisi perustus terveysympäristöön tulevaisuudessa. Sanon tulevaisuudessa. Ja pitkällä aikavälillä, kun lopetat tämän konfliktin,

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235.69 - 257.628 General Keith Kellogg

Varmistaa, että Ukraina voidaan rakentaa, mitä he haluavat rakentaa, joka on 800 000 sotilasta. Se on Euroopan suurin sotilas. Mutta niin kauan kuin on vahvaa turvallisuutta Yhdysvalloissa ja muissa, luulen, että voit mennä ulos siitä. Se on vaikea ottaa, se on vaikea sanoa, mutta pitkällä aikavälillä, onko tämä se, mitä haluat tehdä, jotta lopetat sotilasta? Heidän pitäisi ajatella kovasti siitä, missä he haluavat olla.

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On Wednesday afternoon the regional governor in Donetsk said that at least seven people were killed in Russian attacks in the town of Drivkivka. Vitaly Shevchenko is Russia editor at BBC Monitoring. Alex Ritson asked him what's been happening at the peace talks.

Chapter 4: What changes are happening for female motorcyclists in Iran?

274.267 - 301.132 Emily Thomas

All we've been hearing are rather vague statements, Alex. The Ukrainians are saying that the negotiators are going to divide into two working groups. One presumably, as far as we know, focusing on military issues, i.e. who controls Donbass, and the other group focusing on political issues, such as

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whether an election of some sort will be held in Ukraine at some point in the future. But that's guesswork. In terms of what's expected, very little. I've seen leaks in the media suggesting that a prisoner exchange is possible tomorrow. But as we've just heard, it's not a very good beginning to the talks with continued Russian attacks on Ukraine.

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Donetsk on Donbassin eteläisessä alueessa, jota Russia haluaa. Mitä olet kuullut tästä viimeisestä sääntöstä?

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335.894 - 364.565 Emily Thomas

I'm looking at the latest telegram post by Vadim Filashkin, the head of Donetsk region, which is at the heart of these talks in Abu Dhabi today. He's saying the latest is seven people dead, 15 injured. The demographic of the dead and injured reflects who's still there. The oldest casualty, the person who was killed, is 81 years old. When negotiators are talking about Donbass and Donetsk,

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364.565 - 392.02 Emily Thomas

It's not exactly barren wasteland. There's still people living there who are too old or too frail to leave. And in fact I was speaking to a volunteer based in London who's been delivering aid to Drushkivka. And he told me that the security situation was gradually deteriorating there, because that town is right on the edge of Ukrainian-controlled territory in Donbass. So it looks like an attack like this was just a matter of time.

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With neither side prepared to budge, is there any room for manoeuvre in these talks over the next two days? I think, Alex, it's a question of how long Ukraine can withstand Russia's military pressure and diplomatic pressure from both Russia and the United States, because we've seen an increasing convergence of their positions.

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And if that pressure mounts and if Ukraine doesn't get enough assistance to keep pushing back, well, it doesn't really have much choice but to, well, give up territory and hope for the best.

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Vitali Shevchenko. To Nigeria next, where dozens of people are feared to have been killed by armed gangs in a remote village in the country's central Kwara state. The government has pledged to do more to crack down on the recent surge in violence in the region. My colleague Lucy Hocking spoke to the BBC's Makwachi Okafo in Lagos to learn more about this latest attack.

Chapter 5: What inspired two former refugees to walk the length of Britain?

449.497 - 473.257 Makwachi Okafo

I spoke with a lawmaker from the community, that's the Woro community, and he did say that gunmen attacked the village, killed some people and raided some shops and set it ablaze. So it seems like they are now seeing more and more numbers of deaths. I have seen that the AFP news agency said that the Red Cross has seen over 100 deaths.

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473.257 - 503.142 Makwachi Okafo

So the numbers are increasing. We don't know specifically what group has carried out this attack, as no group has come out to say it's them that did it. But it kind of shows the trend of violence we're beginning to see across many parts of Nigeria. Kwarazit is in north central, which isn't historically one of the parts of the country where you will see violence like this. But in recent weeks and months, we're beginning to see such attacks across central Nigeria.

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503.142 - 530.564 Makwachi Okafo

And what has been the reason for some of these attacks in other parts of central Nigeria? It's been difficult to say, but most of the attacks in the area have been a mix of many issues. You see banditry, what we locally call banditry, where armed men attack villages, abduct people for ransom, loot villages and loot shops, loot marketplaces and carry out people's belongings. Sometimes it can be economical.

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530.564 - 557.834 Makwachi Okafo

But we've also seen some cases where they are ideological, where jihadists also carry out attacks like this in central Nigeria, not just in Kaira state, but in neighboring Niger states, which has also seen abductions in schools. And even Kaira state at the end of last year saw an abduction in a church where worshippers were having an evening worship and people were abducted and even some people died in that attack. And what is the government saying and what is the government doing to try and prevent these attacks?

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558.475 - 598.334 Makwachi Okafo

The government has said it is ramping up efforts to clamp down on insurgency. We have seen even stronger collaborations with countries like the US. Yesterday the Nigerian government did confirm that a team of US soldiers are now in the country to help assist the country both with intelligence sharing and training. Makwachi Okafo.

599.465 - 622.702 Emily Thomas

Iran on tehty järjestelmää naisille motosyklisteille, jotta he voivat saada liikennettä. Ihmiset ovat olleet motosyklisteilla vuosia, mutta liiketoimintatapahtumat olivat väkeä, onko tämä legaalia. Ei ole selvää, onko tämä tapahtumatapahtuma tehty yhdessä monimutkaisissa valtionkysymyksissä viime vuonna, jotka olivat vahvasti pysyneet alueilla. Tensiaatuisia ihmisiä on ajateltu olevan tullut.

622.702 - 661.885 Emily Thomas

Gonche Habibi Azad on BBC Persian Service. siksi, että sen jälkeen lainsäädäntö järjestettiin lainsäädäntöjen ja lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen lainsäädäntöjen

661.885 - 686.185 Emily Thomas

We have seen a rise in female riders in recent years. We could spot them in videos and photos coming out of Tehran and other cities in Iran. But I have to say this, that the Instagram account of a female motorcyclist was blocked back in October last year after she posted a video criticizing the authorities for failing to issue the licenses to women.

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So why now? So the decision is following widespread public discontent and a deadly crackdown on protesters that rights groups say left thousands dead. And the protest started in late December over Iran's worsening economic conditions and the conditions have not improved yet.

Chapter 6: How is Walmart becoming a trillion-dollar company?

779.588 - 809.12 Emily Thomas

Now, an inspiring story about two former child refugees who settled in the UK. They've just completed a marathon walk along the length of the British mainland to draw attention to the war in South Sudan. Giel Malual and John Quay originally fled the violence there after a civil war broke out in 2013. During their epic journey, they raised money to build new schools in refugee camps for children displaced by the war. Patricia Whitehorn caught up with them as they finished.

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In the howling wind greeted by supporters, Giel Maluwal and John Quegg arrive at their final destination, the Duncan's Behead Lighthouse in the Scottish Highlands. It really feels great to finish this event. It's a wonderful achievement. They have just completed their grueling walk, which began mid-December, when they set off from Dungeness Beach on the southeast coast, heading to the northernmost tip of Britain.

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Jokaiselle lapsille Suomessa, oletko sinä sydäntä, sydäntä, viimeinen tai viimeinen, pitkä valko vahvistaa sinua. He sopivat enemmän kuin 900 kilometriä, noin 1500 kilometriä, kävelemällä 15 tuntia päivässä, jossa on jää, jää ja jää.

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Kuunnellaan erittäin hyvää kappaletta lähellä John O'Groatsin kafeissa, Giel ja John kertovat minulle, miten he ovat eläneet konflikin itseään. He ovat Norjan suomalaisuudessa Suomessa, maailman toisen suurin etninen ryhmä, ja he olivat kohtuneet hakemaan, ennen kuin tuli Yhdysvaltojen kouluun. Giel sanoo, että lapsen kokemukset ovat vaikuttaneet hänet rahoittamiseen.

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906.91 - 919.381 Vesa

Olen syrjinnäkirjailija. 2013, kun konfliktit tapahtuivat Suomessa, olin nuori. Laitoin paljon perheitä sen vuoksi eteläntarkoituksella hallituksella.

919.786 - 947.09 Emily Thomas

Olen joutunut Jubaan ja joutunut UN-kampuun. Olin siellä viiden vuoden aikana ja rakastan, että olen työskennellyt. Se oli unelma, jonka minulla oli kun olin lapsi. Mutta joutuminen niissä kampuissa tuntuu, että se unelma ei ole koskaan saavutettavaa, koska koulutukset, joita olemme saaneet, eivät ole oikeita, eivät ole tarpeeksi. Ne eivät saa meille parhaista.

947.242 - 976.385 Emily Thomas

As Gil and John began their journey, many people told them they were crazy for walking during the cold and icy winter months. But Gil says that was a deliberate decision, to show solidarity with the suffering of the Sudanese people. John Kwe says he was daunted by the task, but agreed to join Gil on his mission because of the cause. We always used to motivate each other when you feel like you are tired and you are exhausted. Now we made it so far with commitment.

976.857 - 1000.229 Emily Thomas

You are doing something because of the pain that you have of the other children. So we made it here. I don't think if could be another thing. I will not do it to be honest with you. Gail and John's original fundraising target was just under $50,000. But the two men have raised three times that amount. Gail says this will enable them to open up more than one school.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of water shortages in South Africa?

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We are going to build them around all the neighbouring countries that the Sudanese children have fled into, like Chad, like Uganda, like Egypt, and support them as these children go along to discover the best version of themselves. Former child refugee Giel Maluel ending that report by Patricia Whitehorn.

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Still to come in this podcast. My favourite moment was doing a Royal Variety performance. Prince Charles walking along the line-up and him saying, are there any women in the Muppets? And I leapt at him. Prince, prince, prince! Muppets, to mark the TV programme's 50th anniversary, an insider looks back.

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1049.69 - 1054.887 Helena Merriman

If journalism is the first draft of history, what happens if that draft is flawed?

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1055.258 - 1083.558 Helena Merriman

In 1999, four Russian apartment buildings were bombed. Hundreds killed. But even now, we still don't know for sure who did it. It's a mystery that sparked chilling theories. I'm Helena Merriman, and in a new BBC series, I'm talking to the reporters who first covered this story. What did they miss the first time? The History Bureau. Putin and the apartment bombs. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Hei, mikä tekee K-autosta autoalan edelläkävijän? Kyllä me asetaan asiakkaan luottamus rehellisyydellä ja teoilla joka päivä, yksi auto kerrallaan. Let's go! K-auto uudistaa autoalaa rohkeasti auto kerrallaan. Tutustu uramahdollisuuksiin K-autossa ja muualla K-ryhmässä kesko.fi kautta Lexco.

1111.148 - 1134.2 Emily Thomas

The International Energy Agency has warned that increasing demand for rare earth minerals, essential in many modern technologies, is putting energy security at risk. Global demand for these minerals is expected to increase significantly in the coming years, creating pressure on supply chains. Now more than 50 countries are gathering at a conference in Washington to discuss the matter.

1134.2 - 1161.25 Emily Thomas

Alex Ritson asked our business correspondent Jonathan Josephs what role China, which controls many of these resources, had to play in all this. China controls so many of these critical minerals, things like rare earths, but also has a lot of influence when it comes to things like copper and lithium. So I asked Tae-yoon Kim, who is the head of the critical minerals division at the International Energy Agency, I asked him what the risks were.

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There are some growing questions about whether the future supplies can keep up with rising demand. We see some progress has been made in recent years. Investment is increasing and also many governments are introducing new policy support to make projects happen. But the same cannot be said for diversification. We need to develop some more mines and more smelters and more refineries to serve the rising demand.

1185.112 - 1209.648 Emily Thomas

So what the fear here is that China, because it's dominating the production and refining of these elements, these minerals, it potentially can hold the rest of the world over a barrel. Well, that's not just a potential fear, Alex. That's something that actually happened last year when China renounced export controls on rare earths. And that was at the heart of the US-China trade war.

Chapter 8: What special anniversary is being celebrated by The Muppet Show?

1385.249 - 1402.259 Emily Thomas

todella suuria tuotteita, vähäisiä piirteitä, jotka traditiivisesti sijoittavat vähäis- ja puolustusalueita. Se on siis suosittanut asiakkaan suunnitelmaa merkittävästi. Kuten me kaikki tunnemme, pysyvät piirteet. Pohjoisalueiden asiakkaat ovat aloittaneet ostamaan siellä.

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1402.259 - 1431.757 Emily Thomas

Like most of us, they're looking for value, for convenience, at a time when all households are feeling the pinch. They're facing a number of financial strains, factors such as inflation, particularly in the US as well, a cooling job market. The company's been able to take advantage of that challenging consumer environment, and it's broadened its appeal, reaching out to, as I said, those customers that traditionally look elsewhere, while retaining its lower income shoppers. They're still going there.

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1431.757 - 1459.178 Emily Thomas

Digital sales have driven it as well. It's been a major driver of growth. It's grown the number of items online. Apparently, according to one report that I read, there's over a half a billion items available to shop online now. It's making basically a direct challenge at one of its main competitors, Amazon Prime. Also critically, Walmart went big early on AI technology, and that's helped it across the business.

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by pouring billions of dollars into supply chain automation. It allows it to restock more quickly, and that means it can offer more products and it can increase its profit margins. Another thing that it's done, it's also tried to appeal to tech workers. So it's built a new headquarters or a new campus, a 350-acre campus in Bentonville, Arkansas. It's sort of something that resembles more of those kind of headquarters you would expect to see something like Google or Meta.

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So it's got childcare facilities, there's a vast food hall, amphitheatre, basically trying to bring in new tech workers to help it with this push, with its AI push. Pete Ross, water shortages are worsening in parts of South Africa.

1504.589 - 1527.218 Emily Thomas

The latest casualty is the coastal town of Gneisner, whose residents are fearing the prospect of municipal taps running dry, so-called Day Zero. Dams are critically low, and water restrictions have been imposed to slow down the decline. Authorities have even declared a local state of disaster amid concern over dwindling supplies. The BBC's Pumsa Filani has been to Gneisner.

1531.268 - 1548.683 Emily Thomas

Naisna, kaupungin perhe, jossa on kylmä ja hyvää vettä, on popularitsevaa kansainvälisille katsojille. Se on myös viettäminen perhe, jossa on suurempia paikkoja. Mutta kaupungin veneerin ympärillä on kylmä veneeri.

1548.768 - 1573.912 Emily Thomas

Olemme Akurklöfissä, joka on yksi kaupungin suurimmista rauhoitukseista. Täällä oli todella vähäisiä vettä, jotka sopivat panikkoa ja huomioita päiväkohdasta. Tällä kohdalla katsotaan vähemmän kuin 20 päivää vettä. Tämä on kriisi, joka on tuotettu luonnon kautta lokalisella rauhalla sekä vuosien pahalla käsittämisellä kaupungin kestävällä infrastruktuurilla.

1575.211 - 1599.764 Emily Thomas

Naisna viettää noin 56 prosenttia kestävää vettä pyypeistä, jotka eivät ole uudistaneet yli 30 vuotta. Ambel Ridge Care, rauhallinen puolustusvillaisuus, oli viime vuosina kokeilemassa, mitä puolueen ilman vettä näyttäisi, kun puolueen ilman vettä lähti kestävät eläimet ilman kestävää vettä 10 päivää.

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