Ukraine and US negotiators to meet following Moscow talks

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Celia Hatton 0:48
This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service.

What are the latest developments in the Ukraine peace negotiations?

Celia Hatton 0:53
I'm Celia Hatton, and in the early hours of Thursday, the 4th of December, these are our main stories. The back-and-forth negotiations on the US-backed peace plan for Ukraine will continue on Thursday with talks between Washington and Kiev. The doctor who sold the drug ketamine to the Friends star Matthew Perry weeks before his fatal overdose has been sentenced to 30 months in prison. Also in this podcast, India prepares to welcome President Putin. On the agenda now is everything from new defense deals to a rethink of energy ties with Moscow, all while India tries to walk that diplomatic tightrope with the US.

What challenges did the US special envoy face in Moscow talks?

Celia Hatton 1:35
We look at the geopolitics behind the visit. The last few weeks have seen a flurry of diplomatic activity as the Trump administration tries to secure backing for its latest plan to end the war between Russia and Ukraine. On Thursday, all eyes will be on Florida, where the U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff will meet Ukraine's top negotiator, Rustam Umarov. They'll discuss the outcome of Tuesday's meeting in Moscow between President Putin, Mr. Wyckoff, and President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Those talks failed to produce any breakthrough, although the Kremlin described them as productive. Speaking at the Oval Office, here was Donald Trump's assessment of those Moscow talks.
Donald Trump 2:21
I don't know what the Kremlin is doing. I can tell you that they had a reasonably good meeting with President Putin. We're going to find out.

How is India navigating its relationship with Russia amid the war in Ukraine?

Donald Trump 2:28
It's a war that should have never been started. It's a war. If I were president, we had a rigged election. If I were president, that war would have never happened. It's a terrible thing. But I thought they had a very good meeting with President Putin. We'll see what happens.
Celia Hatton 2:41
David Petraeus is a retired U.S. Army general and former director of the CIA. He told the BBC's Evan Davis it's not surprising President Putin has so far not agreed to a deal.

What are the implications of President Putin's visit to India?

David Petraeus 2:55
It was predictable and predicted, in fact, widely that Putin would not accept anything less than his stated core objectives, which are to replace President Zelensky through an election, presumably with a pro-Russian figure, to be given land in Donetsk province that they haven't even approached, much less taken. And this includes the so-called fortified cities, which, if given to Russia, basically open the field for further aggression there. down the road. None of those can be acceptable to Ukraine, but Putin is clearly not going to accept anything less. He seems to be still under the impression that victory is inevitable, even though it's very clear that the incremental gains at extraordinary cost at some point just are not going to be sustainable for Russia, especially given the more fragile state of its economy than I think many recognize.
Donald Trump 3:44
The best outcome from Ukraine's point of view at this point, given that they don't want to yield to Russia's demands, would be for European nations and the United States to make it much more costly for Russia to pursue this war.
Celia Hatton 3:59
Is there any hope of that happening?
David Petraeus 4:01
Well, I think that there is an increased urgency in European capitals and in Brussels. In fact, I've visited many of them over the last several months, including also a visit to Kiev. And I came out of those having a sense that there really is a way forward if an agreement could not be reached that could enable Ukraine substantially on the battlefield, on the front lines, and then also to help them defend against these Russian missile and drone attacks.

What legal actions are being taken regarding the US drug boat strikes?

David Petraeus 4:29
and then also to put much more pressure on the Russian economy with further sanctions, and that if more is done at a time when Russia is projected to run out of money in its National Welfare Fund next year, that's been funding their military-industrial complex. If you do that and also go after those who are enabling Russia Russia's war machine, buying its gas and oil and providing the components for its military industrial complex.

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