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Chapter 1: How did Beyoncé begin her journey in music?
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Raaka-öljyn hinta nousi yli sadan dollarin tynnyrillä. Levottomuudet jatkuivat pörssi avasi tänään lievässä laskussa. Maailma voi tuntua joskus hallitsemattomalta. Silloin haluan, että varallisuuteni on asiantuntevissa käsissä. Oma sijoitusjohtajani Nordea Private Bankingissa auttaa minua pysymään askeleen edellä. Näin minulle jää aikaa siihen, mikä elämässä on tärkeintä. Nordea.fi kautta Private Banking.
A young girl, just nine years old, sweats under the sweltering Texas sun. She is running, her tiny feet are pounding the pavement along the edge of the Bayou River. Five other girls trail behind her. They're all singing at the top of their lungs, harmonizing as they go. But none of the girls are hitting the notes quite like our lead. Because this little girl is Beyonce, and she will leave everyone in the dust on her journey to becoming a billionaire.
Welcome to Good Bad Billionaire from the BBC World Service. Each episode we pick a billionaire and find out how they made their money. We take them from zero to their first million and then from a million on to a billion. I'm Simon Jack, the BBC's business editor. And I'm Zing Zing. I'm a journalist, author and podcaster. And this week, probably one of the top cultural figures of the 21st century.
Oh yeah, and probably the 20th century as well. I mean we are starting this season with a bang. Have you seen her life? I've seen her life. I've actually seen her life three times and I was trying to count how much money I've spent on Beyonce in the last 15 years.
I reckon probably almost a grand seeing her live. Tickets don't come cheap, do they? And that is one of the reasons that in 2025 Beyoncé was declared a billionaire worth exactly one billion dollars. From the very beginning, Beyoncé has embodied professionalism,
Perfection, power. I mean, you just need to listen to her voice to know that. And capitalism. Let's not forget about that. Ambition, materialism, capitalism, all being pretty overt in some of her lyrics. From her first hit with Destiny's Child, Bills, Bills, Bills. It's a tune. To declaring herself, and I like this quote, a Black Bill Gates in the making on 2016's Lemonade. Yes, you can listen to the Bill Gates episode to decide if she really is the Black Bill Gates. But Beyonce is the CEO of what she calls
And I love this. Her multi-purpose badass conglomerate. But really, this is a story about an artist who made money from making music. Which is pretty rare. And I like the multi-purpose badass conglomerate. Remember Jay-Z, who will feature in this story for obvious reasons. He said, I'm not a businessman. I'm a business, comma, man. So what does it take to make a billion and become Queen Bee? Let's travel back to find out. Queen Bee
Yes, Beyonce Knowles was born in 1981 in Houston, Texas in the USA. Her father Matthew worked at Xerox selling medical equipment. Her mother Tina owned a hair salon that, according to Matthew, made them their first million dollars before Beyonce was even born. And she said, I went to private school, we had a very nice house, we had cars, we had a housekeeper. You can actually Google her family home. It's pretty nice, grand looking white house, 5,000 square feet, four bedrooms, three bathrooms and a swimming pool. So nice.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Destiny's Child face during their rise?
In order to do that, Beyonce needs to go solo. So at the end of 2001, Destiny's Child announces a hiatus. She's only 21 at this stage. She's on her own. Beyonce releases a collaboration with a rapper, the man who would later on become her husband, Jay-Z. And according to Beyonce, she was not flush with cash at the beginning of their relationship. She says, we used calling cards and Skype when we were falling in love.
I couldn't afford the international hotel bills, so I would literally get international calling cards to call him. Okay, famously expensive, those phone calls from your hotel room. At this point, though, Beyoncé started diversifying her revenue stream. Now that sounds all very businesslike in my comfort zone. She's starting to cash in on sponsorship. She replaced Britney Spears as the face of Pepsi. She's dipping her toe into acting. She starred in an MTV made-for-TV film, Carmen, a hip hoppera.
And then the big screen is Foxy Cleopatra in Austin Powers Gold Member. I don't remember that. I remember this. And she also did a song for it from memory. Did she? A song which is quite good, I think, but, you know, forgotten to the mists of time. But things are about to get really big for her.
Exactly. So things exploded in 2003 when she released her debut solo album Dangerously in Love. It debuted at number one in the States, it earned her five Grammy Awards, and it was a truly global hit. In fact, she became the first female artist and the fifth artist ever to simultaneously top both the singles charts and the album charts in the US and the UK. That is really, really difficult. And most importantly for Beyoncé's journey to a billion,
Dangerously in Love became one of the best-selling albums of the 21st century. So between this, the acting jobs, the Pepsi gig, it feels fair to say that Beyoncé is a millionaire in 2003 at the age of 22. Just 22.
Meille Akria-eläinvakuutuksessa on tärkeää, että lemmikilläsi on mahdollisuus parhaaseen hoitoon. Eläinvakuutuksemme tarjoavat sopivan turvan kaikenlaisiin tarpeisiin. Sinä valitset vakuutuksen laajuuden, me tarjoamme maksuttoman etäeläinlääkärin sekä nopean suorakorvauksen klinikan kassalla.
We are going to have you take all the money out of the vault of your bank. And if you don't do everything we tell you to do step by step, you will be murdered. Discover stories from people whose lives and experiences are anything but ordinary. Without every single experience exactly as it happened, aligning exactly as it did, I wouldn't be me. And I am what I am, and I'm enough.
Vakuutusyhtiöiden valtuuttama Espoon kolarikorjaamo. Korjaa kolarivauriot ja tekee ruostekorjaukset ammattitaitoisesti ja vuosien kokemuksella. Siaisautokorjauksen ajaksi veloituksetta. Löydät meidät osoitteesta ruukinmestarintie7. Siksi valitsen kumppanin, joka vie minut askeleen edelle. Nordea.fi kautta Private Banking. Kiitos!
Okay, so Beyonce is now a millionaire, and next up we're going to track her journey onto a billion. But we've got a long way to go to get from a million to a billion. A billion is a thousand million for new listeners, just to remind you of that. So as much as we love, well you love, we both love the music, I think you know it better than I. We're going to have to fast forward to the next few albums, which are? B-Day. Is it short for birthday or Beyonce day? Well, I think both actually. Okay, got it. Then there's I Am, dot dot dot.
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Chapter 3: How did Beyoncé transition from group member to solo artist?
The tour grossed $256 million, that's $5 million every night. Yeah, and I do remember seeing this, and this was a real phenomenon when it came to London. In 2016 she also made a major move into fashion, so she'd actually tried this before. In 2005 she launched a brand called House of Derion with her mum Tina, which was kind of denim, skirts, dresses. It started off okay, but in the early 2010s House of Derion was quietly shuttered,
But then in 2016 she started tapping into the growing athleisure market with a line called Ivy Park. And if you want to hear more about athleisure, you can check out our episode on Ben Francis. So the Gymshark. Okay, that's interesting. I have to say House of Darion, as names go, I'm not a fan. No, yeah. Ivy Park, much more like it. In fact, I remember...
Se aloitettiin, koska joka päivä kun tulen työskentelemään, minun täytyy mennä vieraan Top Shopin järjestelmään. Ja se oli koko ajan. Ivy Parkin markkinointi oli koko ajan koko ajan. Ja se oli, koska hän oli tapannut omistajan, Philip Greenin, toinen meidän billionaireimme. Katsokaa tämän jakson.
Ja Beyoncé sanoi hänelle, että hän ajatteli, että haluaisin tehdä endorsementtia, kuten he tekevät toisista eläimistä, joissa he vain suosittelevat ja sanoo, että minulla on tämä toinen tuote. Mutta haluaisin yhdistyksen, minä esittelin hänelle idean, missio, tarkoituksen, markkinoinnin strategiaa, kaikki ensimmäisen kerran. Ja minusta hän oli melko yllättynyt. Ja niin hän sopii.
to a 50-50 partnership. I mean, why wouldn't you want to be a partner with Beyonce at that time? You don't need much business acumen to say this might be a good thing. So they launched Ivy Park just a week before Lemonade came out with a big cover interview in some of the magazines, including Elle, selling that new line.
But in 2018, Beyoncé bought Topshop out of that partnership after Philip Green was named as having taken legal action to prevent the publication of allegations of sexual harassment of staff. Accusations, by the way, that he categorically and wholly denies. Instead...
In 2019 Ivy Park announced it was partnering with Adidas. And this was turning a bad situation into an opportunity, because Adidas is the second richest sportswear company in the world. They offered her creative control. And meanwhile, Philip Green's Arcadia Group, which owned Topshop, was actually collapsing. Boy, do I remember that. I was reporting on that a lot at the time, and often with late-night phone calls with Sir Philip himself. And it was true that at that time,
Philip Green oli kutsuttu kapitalismin onnistumiseksi. Hän oli tosi tosi tosi tosi tosi tosi tosi tosi tosi tosi tosi.
Behind those differences, poor sales though, they were down more than 50% to around 40 million in 2022, which is pretty bad for a business the size of Adidas, because they projected 250 million dollars in sales. Ivy Park had been losing money for Adidas, which is a surprise to me, I must say, but there we go. Not a good time for Adidas, but also not a problem for Beyonce, because the original deal she signed guaranteed her about 20 million in annual compensation, regardless of sales. Great fine print there.
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Chapter 4: What strategic business decisions did Beyoncé make for her career?
But boy, she knows how to spend it, doesn't she? In 2023, her and Jay-Z spent $200 million for a Malibu beachfront mansion, which we think is the highest price ever paid for a property in California. And you're up against some pretty stiff competition in California. I mean, you're up against what? Movie stars.
Kyllä. Ja myös yksiköiden kanssa he tykkäsivät käsittämään rahaa, eivätkö he? En voi ajatella, että he olivat todella vahva yksikö, eivätkö he? Voit tehdä koko podcastin siitä, kuinka nämä kaksi yksiköitä ovat avanneet kasvamaan yhdessä ja saamassa lapsia, eikö? Koska hän oli niin vanha, kun he tutustuivat.
He was older. He came from, you know, we've done the episode on him. He literally came from the housing projects of New York. And she comes from this nice middle class background. How those two have continued to go on and create a business despite the infidelity, despite Becky with the good hair and had three kids. I mean, it's really intriguing. But yeah, they do love to spend it.
Okay, so let's give them a wealth rating. She's entry level for our purposes, because she's only just crept into the billionaire category, so not that. But on the kind of lifestyle and the aspirational stuff and the way they flaunt it, I'm going to give them a five. Give her a five.
I feel like as someone who spent personally quite a lot of money on Beyoncé tours, I feel like I have to give her slightly more. So maybe I'll give her a six out of ten. Okay. All right. What about controversy? I mean, one of the most written about women in history, probably. A lot of think pieces about whether she's a feminist or not discussed. Yeah. I mean, it is interesting because obviously she'd had that whole run the world girls era where, I mean, the lyric is literally girls, we run the world. And she stood in front of a giant screen that basically said feminist and
and included spoken words from Chimamanda Ngozi Adiches' We Should All Be Feminists' essay. If you remember that and you can look it up, it's at the VMAs. And there is an argument to be had that, you know, Beyoncé is this feminist icon. She's shown young women and girls, especially black women, that you can be the star, you can be the mogul, in the same way that Jay-Z is. Yeah, not just the star, but the mogul. That's an important distinction, isn't it? Right, the black Bill Gates, basically. But then, you know, there's also a strand of feminism that says, actually,
All you're doing is kind of kowtowing to the temple of capitalism at the end of the day. You're just telling people that you can do it through, you know, hard work, through making money, when that maybe isn't how society is set up, especially not for people of color. So I think it's an ongoing tension in her work, really. You know, I think Beyonce, when you listen to her, when you
Kuunnellaan, että hänellä on melko vahva ajatus siitä, mitä hänen feminisminsa on. Hän sanoi, että en ole varma, että ihmiset tiedättävät tai ymmärtävät, mitä feministi on, mutta se on hyvin yksinkertainen. Se on joku, joka uskoo, että hänellä on yksinkertainen oikeus naiselle ja naiselle. Kertoisitko joku, naiselle tai naiselle, että hänet haluaa 75 senttiä, kun hän tarvitsee dollarin? Mitä luulet, että vastaus olisi? Luulen, että se on melko lähellä.
I think the whole controversy over whether Beyonce is a feminist or an arch-capitalist, honestly it just depends on which side of the coin you like. Controversy, some would say ruthless, we use that word sometimes. I mean, if you look at the Destiny's Child era, there was chopping and changing. I mean, her dad saying wanting to put her front and centre. I go and see, you know, people with their kids in the football pitch on a Sunday afternoon and every dad wants their son to be centre forward. Do you know what I mean? It's...
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