Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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I have so much privilege, and with privilege comes responsibility, so I can speak. If I've angered some dudes on X or wherever in the darkness of the dark corners of any comment section, whoopty shit. Having someone who's been single for 37,000 years, I actually think it possibly is quite a good thing, because you don't, I didn't have any like... Thing to compare it to. Yeah.
We are in for some troubling times ahead, I believe. So we have to look after ourselves because we, the people, are going to have to be the ones that get us out of this mess. So we have to have the energy to do it.
Nau mai haere mai to grey areas with me, Petra Baggis.
podcasting powerhouse brodie kane we talk about what fuels her mahi how she channels her anger into positive action and we talk about her latest love her friends and family and the uncomfortable things she continues to do to stay healthy and feel alive it's a really good challenge look there are so many gems in here about how to keep going through the tough stuff and really enjoy your life here's brodie
Brodie Kane, you do not lead a quiet life.
Yeah, it's funny the week you've got me in. Boy, oh boy.
So thanks for taking a moment before you're something down run, you're warm down run, you're cool down run. You're training for the Noosa Half Marathon. You've got two podcasts in production. You're prepping for a live show. You're emceeing your ass off. You were at the opening of the Christchurch Stadium. You were in Taranaki. You're up and everywhere, man. Yes.
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Chapter 2: What does it mean to be self-employed in today's world?
In terms of being self-employed, how you hold those boundaries, like I just want to focus a moment on that boundary thing where you think you're getting a little better at boundaries. A, you're so bold and brave and activated, right? I would have thought you never had an issue with boundaries. My issue is with being self-employed, are you ever not working? Well, do you know what?
Because define working right. Working is so varied for people. I think the word is probably not working. It's are you ever off? And that's probably the bit that is always what I'm trying to claw back because... Switching off And being present is probably, if I think about right now, I think that's probably the thing that I struggle the most with. And it's the thing that you yearn more for.
So I go, and then you go, but it's all you're doing. Yeah, and you go, yeah, I know. Thank you. I know that, Brodie. Thank you. But I go, okay, so if I look at the next two weeks, I go, okay, is there a day where where you don't have to be on. And there isn't one for about 10 days. And so for that, I sort of go, ha, ha, ha.
And look, it is one of those things though where you go, okay, I can look forward to that day. Look at all the things you've got to do between then whereby you are expected to be somewhere, expected to show up for other people. And I love all of that. Yeah. But there's a great cycle of saying yes, overcommitting, but also wanting to sort of Get amongst it while you can. Yes.
And so I think it's cyclic though.
Do you know what I mean? I do. I do. And I think that in a season where you look at the next 10 days and there isn't a day where you don't have to be on, you then look for an hour where you don't have to be on. Yeah. Because a day is too big a chunk to wait for. Like we resource ourselves. Like it's even like we just took a moment before we started recording and
Well, you just arrive, like you just stretch, you know, you just stretch your arms out or you fill your lungs up. Like there are moments to be present, aren't there?
And one of the things that I find so fascinating about that is that we just don't do enough of it anymore. And I think that that's probably societal. If we look at this thing that we hold in our hands now far too much, our phones now.
and this and and how it deprives our brains of space that is something that i i wish we could all figure out like you know we talk about banning social media for under 16s what about a ban for the adults you know like i'm like we need it too but you know i um Listen to a keynote speech last year.
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Chapter 3: How can we find genuine rest in a constantly connected society?
And we put it on the group chat, on the family group chat. And I'm like, that might be the first time in the day that I've picked up my phone. And I'm hitting 8 o'clock. But I've got up at 6.30. It feels quite lovely.
Yeah. And, hey, shock horror, the world will still spin if you don't text back for an hour or two hours or, you know, we've done that to ourselves, though.
But I also get, we have, I get totally trapped in the, oh, I just answered that thing and I just got that thing and I just responded to that person and I'm just so organised and I'm, like, my brain will flick while we're setting up here and we're doing the lighting. I'll quickly reply to this text. And you feel there's an addictive achievement factor
vibe happening there so I want to know as far as like when I've if people want to hear more about your life and your backstory they can listen to a couple of podcasts now because you have told your life story on Between Two Bears and Dom Harvey's podcast and they're joyous to listen to there's so many fun stories there
I want to know of all the things you've done, like you strike me as a courageous human. You're willing to activate. I wonder if part of that is your personality type. You're like, this is wrong. Like, hear me roar. And it's like it's a beautiful energy. Yeah. And you've also put yourself out there in ways where people have gone you, right?
So it looks to me like despite building a career in the public eye, life is not a popularity contest for you. Can I ask you to think about or to tell me what comes to mind when you think about the tough stuff you've been through? and the issues that you've stood up for in the formation of Brody Kane.
What are those things like the bullying at TVNZ or the protesting, standing up for causes that you're passionate about that are important, that some people are worried or nervous about or don't have anything to say or don't know? What are the role of those things in your life?
Well, I think a big, huge piece of it is my upbringing and my parents and watching them in terms of, you know, striving to be good people, you know, and sticking up. You know, like if I think, you know, my parents, my mum and dad are very different, but also very similar. But, you know, my mum has always been, she has always stood up for people.
And she has always backed herself for something she believes in. No matter what people have thought of her, she has, in various facets of her career, She has always fought on behalf of people or if she thought something was wrong, she said it out loud.
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Chapter 4: What influences shaped Brodie Kane's advocacy and career?
Like I think about that in the podcast. Somebody with, you know, a lot of profile comes along. You're like, oh, that's an easy yes. I'm interested in their story. And this is going to be mutually beneficial. Somebody else comes along and I'm like, this is important.
And I need to try and invite my people in to hear what this person has to say because what they've got to say is additive, even if it's sometimes confronting or challenging or confounding. Like we have to spend our selves, goodness, in pursuit of the goodness of others, I think.
Yeah, because, and also why not? Yeah, why not? You know, but yeah, getting the balance right sometimes is, you know. Hard, yep. But as I say, you know, like I don't think I'd be wrong in saying that we're in a real, we're in this kind of like, real state of feralness with all of these sort of like things happening in the world.
And so I'm like, well, I'd like to hope that maybe we get spat out the other side. And it's like, wicked, I'm actually only angry once every fortnight. We've kind of sorted it out. We've sorted enough shit out that I'm only in a deep sense of rage once a fortnight, you know? Well, perimenopause is really going to mess with you, mate.
Oh, damn it. You're in a lot of trouble.
Damn it.
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I hear you say that you're able to stand up and speak out because you're not doing it in isolation on your own. You are deeply connected into, plugged into the goodness of your community. I mean, I saw your post about Connor Dog, your beautiful boy who you've just recently lost. You know, like you had animals and people and spaces that held you and said yes to who you were.
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Chapter 5: How did Brodie Kane transition her podcasting journey?
So then, yeah, conversations and a great partnership managed to develop with stuff, which was so fantastic. Because all of a sudden, there's a team around you to help. And it's just a really, really nice feeling again. Because as I said earlier, it can be lonely doing it all. But when you feel like you've got a bit of a team with you, it's a really nice feeling. And so...
I was with the staff partnership was probably nearly two years. And, you know, it was a completely amicable separation. What did Gwyneth Paltrow call it? A conscious uncoupling? A conscious uncoupling. Something like that. Conscious, not unconscious. But it was, you know, and, you know, the reality as well for media companies here is that, They are constantly trying to
change and try and keep up with the crazy speed at which the people's consumption of news media is changing.
It's a new digital landscape. It's evolving, right? So then as a woman, you're making, not as a woman, as a person, as a business person, you're making decisions all the time. You form a new partnership with MediaWorks. Well done. And you are rebranding Girls Uninterrupted to Let Her Finish and changing the format of that. How do you...
personally approach relationships ending relationships starting things evolving like what's your kaupapa what's your way of doing those things because they're not always easy no and I think that um so I think like for for me um in terms of like doing the podcasts um
I love them and they bring me so much joy. They're also hugely time consuming. And you kind of, I know that I've kind of just said this, but you do get to a point as well where you're like, this actually has to be, like it's not a hobby. Yes. I've got lots of hobbies. This is part of my business. I throw lots and lots. lots of time, lots of money, and lots of energy behind these things.
And so for me, really, the reason the Girls Uninterrupted ended is because I made it really clear that these are the things that I wanted. And if people don't want the same things, I think it's really admirable to go, well, let's call it. Let's call it now. And I still wanted to do a podcast in that space with women. And it really, really made sense to do one online.
with two other women in the same building, in the same city, and then also go, how can we? get this to grow and grow and grow. And how can we make this a really viable business as well? Because things are okay to end. Again, it goes back to that piece of another element of us being adults. We're so like sometimes adept to change or hard things. They're good for us.
They're good for us. They're good for us. Yeah. Hard things are good for us. So speaking of which, you're in a long distance relationship. Yeah. Ouch. How's that going? What are your top tips for long distance love? Oh my goodness.
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Chapter 6: What are the challenges and joys of a long-distance relationship?
It was good for you for doing it. And so, like, and we met and... The first time we met, literally a week after, he got in the car again, came up and spent the weekend with me in Auckland. And we had this amazing weekend. And then literally a fortnight later, I had to be in Whanganui for work. He came to Whanganui. And then the next time...
like literally for the first six weeks I was on I was on my podcast tour he came to the podcast tour I was like I'm just letting you know um um if you're coming to that one he was coming to the Christchurch show this is like a month and mum was there dad was there auntie Rayleigh was there my sister-in-law was there my niece was there all my old school friends were there my old tv mates were there and
And he just was like, sweet. And so he just beautifully slots into the chaos that is my life in a beautifully calm way too. And that's another thing. He's my calming, honestly. Like we talk...
pretty much every night and he like the last couple of days off into the day like and i just see his face and i'm like oh there he is and quite a few people say that too they're like oh he's very calming for you teamwork yeah it's such a beautiful thing yeah and you really i love seeing your face talk about him
Well, do you know, it's funny though, Petra, because like, you know, I always say, oh, you've defrosted my, you know, you've defrosted my cold heart. And also again, like, I never thought I would have been the person that was, that would like call someone a lover or hello, my darling man.
And even saying it out loud when it's not in the context of saying it to him, I'm like, oh my God, pull yourself together. But she's done that. He's done that.
Some more like gooey. Oh, I love it. Adding gooey to courageous. Yeah. Courageous gooey cane. Yeah. Ooh, I love a good heart defrost. I mean, a good love story. Coming up, we talk about winning, not winning, dancing with the stars and the incredible power of getting outside your comfort zone. You can find me on Instagram. I'm at Petra Baggist.
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My husband wants me to talk to you about Dancing with the Stars because he was a cameraman on it. Or you. I said to him the other night, I said to him last night, did she win? Because that's the feeling. Who won your season? Jazz Thornton won our season.
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