Episode 182 - Colin Kapernick

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Who is Colin Kaepernick and what is the focus of his new book?

Unknown 0:04

I'm super excited to see Colin Kaepernick coming out with his new book. Happy to see him in Atlanta. I'm with Kaep. All the way. We gon' get this money to my pockets more, bitch. Remember

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living in apartments, now we playing mortgage. So now to the proper program, right? So let's get for real. In conversation tonight, we have, of course, Deontay Kyle, a social impact, every person who has leveraged his piercing insights, his authentic engagement, and his platform, the Eggs and Grits podcast, to speak truth to power, to push activism through call-outs and self-reflection, and to be unapologetically himself where there are chorus calls for us to be everything other than that. Can we celebrate Brother Kyle and have him come

Deante’ Kyle 1:22

out first? What's happening?

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How y'all doing, black people? How we feeling? And next to anchor this conversation of the Perilous Fight, we have author, activist, and iconoclast for what Brother John Lewis calls the work of good trouble. Please welcome Mr. Colin Kaepernick.

Colin Kaepernick 1:59

Yo. Cal, what's up, man? Yo, how you doing, brother?

Deante’ Kyle 2:07

Trying to stay busy like you, man.

Colin Kaepernick 2:10

I know you're running. Yeah, yeah. I know you're running. How you feeling? I'm good. I'm good. Excited for this.

Deante’ Kyle 2:16

Yeah, I am too, man. When I got the call, I already had like a press stuff. Y'all know I'm going on tour. Shameless plug.

Colin Kaepernick 2:24

Make

Deante’ Kyle 2:24

sure

Colin Kaepernick 2:25

you support

Deante’ Kyle 2:25

the tour. Yeah, make some noise for that. It was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Colin Kaepernick 2:33

yeah, yeah, sure, yeah,

Deante’ Kyle 2:34

whatever. But when I got the call, I was like, oh, I'm there. Without a doubt.

Colin Kaepernick 2:40

That's love. That's love. And, you know, we big fans. We big fans of the work you do. I appreciate

Deante’ Kyle 2:46

it, man. I do want to ask, though, like. It's been 10 years, and then this is all cultivating to this moment. So over the last week or two, we've seen you in numerous places, being asked numerous questions, and I just want to know how you're dealing with it all.

Colin Kaepernick 3:07

I'm doing good. We're running. Not a lot of sleep happening right now, but it's been great because we've been able to be on the ground with people, talking with them, engaging with them. And ultimately what I hope comes out of this is people feel inspired to go out and take action. We are in a moment right now, sitting here in 2026, that we are in many ways at a crossroads as a country. We are either gonna continue to devolve to where we have been previously historically or we're gonna take action to build the future we actually want. And I hope this is something that gets people motivated and activated to go out there and take the action to build that future.

Deante’ Kyle 3:53

Make

Colin Kaepernick 3:53

some

Deante’ Kyle 3:53

noise for that. The last 10 years it comes with a lot of adversity and I can't imagine how hard it is to stay silent when people are always constantly giving you so much to defend. How does it feel to actually be able to tell it all and use your voice to address it all in this moment?

Colin Kaepernick 4:21

It is great to be in the space to be able to give people the truth of everything that has happened. Oftentimes over the last 10 years, I felt like I was in this position of, do I respond how I personally want to and go directly at people? Or do I just keep the focus on the movement and on the issues we're trying to address and make sure we continue to move forward in that way? And we tried to do everything we could to just stay focused on the issue and stay relentless. even when there were a lot of lies, a lot of misinformation put out there, people planting stories. And ultimately the belief was on the tail end of this, people will see the work that has been done And hopefully they judge myself, Eric Reed, other people that have been doing this work on the actions that we took over that 10 years.

Colin Kaepernick 5:22

And now being in a space to be able to share some of the insights of what we've had to navigate. I'm happy to be able to address those things now.

Deante’ Kyle 5:32

Has everybody got the book? We all got the book? All right. So when I got the book and I was like, I'm going to find some quiet time. I want to try to run through this in two days. And then you started, like, Jesus, with the rose story, with the rose tree. And I wanted to see, like, when you started out talking about something like the story about the rose bush, and the moment you had to navigate alone at eight years old, why start there?