S3 | Part Two | Finding Heidi: Endgame, Episode Five - The Skeleton
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What happened to Heidi Paakkonen and Sven Urban Hoglin in 1989?
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because he was saying about how I was a blonde girl and he said I reminded him of her. And he said a lot of the time, like, I shouldn't be down there.
He pretty much said yes, that blonde was known to be here, dragged across there by her hair, it was quite detailed, you know, and that there is a grave down there with two people in it.
I said to him, I put him to the question, I said, mate, did you really deal to those Swedes, brother?
And when he got out of the car, just tell me one thing, where is she? He knew exactly who I was talking about.
I know shit that nobody wants to come out and have me open. And of all of us, I know it all.
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That's got to be her.
I'm just... I just feel like that's her.
Okay, it is a wet old day. And... I'm driving to what could quite possibly be the most important meeting, you know, of all my podcasts of my life. It's December 13th, 2023, and over the last two months, my progress investigating this case has accelerated beyond anything I could have imagined. On October 17th, less than two months ago, I met James Turner for the first time. Within two weeks of that call, James gave me what could be the biggest lead in this case to date, when he told me of someone allegedly seeing his brother dragging Heidi down the beach at Matota Bay. I followed that lead and discovered that it's possible there is a skeleton buried in the sand dunes at Matoda Bay, a skeleton that shouldn't be there.
And now, like a bolt of lightning from the blue, I think I've found the missing link. At the time this audio was being recorded, everything was completely secret, and I kept it this way for a long, long time. You know, I'm sure there's going to be more detail of how this has all unfolded, but some time ago I was contacted by a person. A person that's quite key to this case that you've heard from. And anyway, they gave me a tip. Said, you need to speak to this person. Because apparently this person said, They saw David Turner dragging Heidi down a beach and then leaving without her.
How did David Wayne Tamihere become involved in the case?
And I tracked down this person who had told this story, and they confirmed that, yeah, that story is true, but that it was actually told to them by their brother. And that he was the man that I needed to speak to. He was the one that saw this. So I tracked this guy down, which was very difficult because he's not online or on a phone or anything like that. And anyway, I met him in person. So I meet this guy, but he denies it. He admits that the white Subaru was there at this place. but he denies that he said he saw David Turner dragging Heidi. He said that, no, that's not true. But I just wasn't sure if I trusted him. I don't know, I just, something about it, I wasn't sure. And when I spoke to his sister and so on, she felt that, no, no, this guy's lying.
She felt very off about it. But anyway, this location of where this was is tricky. It's not super easy. It's not easy, this particular place. Anyway, so I get this call yesterday from someone who said, hey, look, I've got this person that's talked to me and they need to speak to you. They know where Heidi's buried. And it's like, shit, you know. So I called her up and said, what's the go? And she said, yeah, so this person knows about Heidi. this spot where the white car came in uh and apparently you know Heidi was taken out and and buried in the spot and um and said that you know the person that had said this was um they want to be anonymous they didn't even want to speak over the phone or by text or anything want to meet face to face only and and that's where i'm going right now but it just so happened that the thing that this person's telling me it's the same exact spot that that other person's telling me that that other person had said and there's a bit that i probably haven't added yet there is a human skeleton in this spot
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What happened to Heidi Paakkonen and Sven Urban Hoglin in 1989?
0:00–3:51
2
How did David Wayne Tamihere become involved in the case?
3:51–7:07
3
What new evidence has emerged in the investigation?
7:07–10:10
4
What lead did Ryan Wolf uncover about Heidi's disappearance?
10:10–13:22
5
What did the witness reveal about the skeleton found at Matoda Bay?
13:22–15:54
6
Why was the decision made to rebury the discovered skeleton?
15:54–18:17
7
What challenges does Ryan face in bringing new evidence to the police?
18:17–20:23
8
What are the implications of the ongoing investigation into Heidi's case?
20:23–43:14
Speakers
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