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Habits and Hustle

Episode 489: JJ Virgin on HRT and Creatine HCL: The Protocol That Actually Works for Women

03 Oct 2025

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Listen to the full episode: https://youtu.be/fWvBYBO3ssE?si=M7K4oJWnVAOWKWnz  At 60, JJ Virgin looks better than most people half her age, but her approach to hormones and supplements might surprise you. In this Fitness Friday episode, we dive into her specific protocols and why the "most studied" supplement isn't always the best choice. We also discuss a shocking body composition case study: how someone went from 25% to 10% body fat with only a 3-pound scale change, proving why tracking the right metrics matters more than the number on your bathroom scale. JJ Virgin is a 4-time New York Times bestselling author and celebrity nutrition expert who's been in the health and wellness space for over 30 years. She's the creator of the Virgin Diet and founder of the Well Beyond 40 podcast. What we discuss: Why Starting HRT at the First Signs of Hormone Shifts Changes Everything The Specific Symptoms That Signal It's Time to Consider Hormone Therapy How to Navigate HRT When Doctors Aren't Trained in Menopause Why 85% of Regular Creatine Never Enters Your Bloodstream The Real Science Behind Creatine HCL vs Monohydrate for Women Using Creatine for Jet Lag, Mental Performance, and Brain Health Why Women Over 40 Should Prioritize Creatine Above Most Other Supplements Thank you to our sponsor: Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off  Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. 99designs by Vista: 99designs.com/jen20  – click "Claim my discount" to get $20 off your first design contest.  Momentous: Shop this link and use code Jen for 20% off  Manna Vitality: Visit mannavitality.com and use code JENNIFER20 for 20% off your order  Prolon: Get 30% off sitewide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Program! Just visit https://prolonlife.com/JENNIFERCOHEN and use code JENNIFERCOHEN to claim your discount and your bonus gift. Find more from JJ Virgin: Website: https://jjvirgin.com/  Podcast: https://jjvirgin.com/main-podcasts/  Instagram: @jj.virgin Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements

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I mean, I was going to ask you, are you on, like, are you doing HRT or something? You want steroids? Yeah, are you on something? Well, no, because you're so ripped. And if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

149.202 - 167.698 JJ Virgin

I'm 60 wonderful. 60 wonderful, okay. 60 wonderful, and I'm an open book. I'll tell you everything I'm doing. I've been on hormone replacement therapy from the moment. My hormones started to shift. And here's what was super cool about that. So when I was on Dr. Phil, he had a little chapter in his book called Weight Loss Resistance. And I thought that what a concept.

167.758 - 191.376 JJ Virgin

I fell in love with this idea because working in real life, working in the wild, I saw people that worked. Eating, eating right, exercising and stuck, especially, you know, perimenopausal women. And this whole idea that nothing changes when you're perimenopausal, your metabolism stays the same is got to be men saying that. Not one perimenopausal woman will say that to you, I don't think. Yeah.

191.677 - 214.089 JJ Virgin

You know? And when did you start? Because I think that's a big question that people are very confused with. Yeah, you start when things start to shift. So that's different for everybody. That could be late 30s. It could be early 40s. For me... early 40s, I think I was around 44, I remember all of a sudden, I used to always be the sweaty one, like sweaty, sweaty, sweaty, you know?

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