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Halford & Brough in the Morning

Burkie Goes To The Hall!

23 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What sports events are highlighted at the start of the episode?

0.031 - 11.026 Sam Dykstra

Oh, brilliant skill from Lionel Messi.

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11.427 - 43.787 Jason Brough

Surging forward with real menace here. Brilliant from Messi. Oh, what a goal that is. I believe the Ottawa Senators got hosed.

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43.807 - 44.729 Jamie Dodd

Whoa.

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45.15 - 64.598 Mike Halford

What? Hosed. Good morning, Vancouver. 601 on a Tuesday. Happy Tuesday, everybody. It is Halford. It is Brough. It is Sportsnet 650. We are coming to you live from the Kintec Studios in beautiful Mount Pleasant in Vancouver. Jason, good morning. Good morning. Ada, good morning to you. Good morning. Laddie, good morning to you as well. Oh, it's Zach. My apologies.

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64.978 - 67.862 Mike Halford

Regular Zach, good morning to you as well. Good morning.

68.062 - 70.846 Sam Dykstra

It's almost like you're on kind of like autopilot sometimes.

71.046 - 73.609 Mike Halford

I was just excited to get going, you know.

73.589 - 95.85 Mike Halford

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95.83 - 100.559 Mike Halford

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Chapter 2: Who are the latest Hockey Hall of Fame inductees?

100.639 - 117.653 Sam Dykstra

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117.633 - 137.78 Mike Halford

Big show ahead, beginning with our guest list. It's the Duik Morning Drive brought to you by the Duik Auto Group. It begins at 6.30 this morning. Greg Wyshynski is going to join the program. Our NHL insider from ESPN. Tons and tons of news heading into draft week for Friday's draft. There was the Brady-Kachuk trade still being unpacked. The Hockey Hall of Fame announcements yesterday.

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138.001 - 149.098 Mike Halford

All that and more we will discuss with Greg Wyshynski at 6.30. 7.30, Julio Caravetta is going to join the program. BC Lions radio color analyst. Ugly start to the year for the Lions.

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149.198 - 153.871 Sam Dykstra

Yeah, the Lions are kind of lucky that everyone in Vancouver is pretty focused on the World Cup right now.

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153.991 - 162.152 Mike Halford

See, when I say ugly start to the year, other people are saying, oh, they started the year. That may be a good thing. 41 to 27 loss in Hamilton over the weekend.

162.267 - 170.836 Sam Dykstra

Do you remember when Ryan Rigmaden came on our very show and came to the defense of Mike Benavides, which is kind of a funny way of putting it.

170.916 - 172.978 Mike Halford

Embattled defensive coordinator Mike Benavides.

172.998 - 176.242 Sam Dykstra

Because no one right now is coming to the defense of the BC Lions.

176.442 - 188.775 Mike Halford

They've only given up 72 points in their first two games. I hardly understand why anyone would be criticizing the defensive coordinator. The BC Lions are back in action this Saturday in Calgary. Julio's going to join us in 730.

Chapter 3: What impact does the Brady-Kachuk trade have on the NHL?

192.23 - 194.093 Mike Halford

I thought they were playing in Calgary this weekend.

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194.153 - 197.618 Sam Dykstra

It's Kelowna. They've got Calgary and Edmonton in Kelowna.

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197.638 - 218.667 Mike Halford

Touchdown, Kelowna begins this weekend. My apologies. So, Julia Caravatta is going to join us at 7.30. 8 o'clock, Ben Steiner is going to join the program. Canadian soccer reporter for Sports Illustrated and Goal.com. Another star-studded day at the World Cup yesterday. Tomorrow, Canada back in action for an absolutely massive clash to decide who tops the group. Ben Steiner for some footy talk.

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218.647 - 242.275 Mike Halford

at 8 a.m so we got a lot to get into we got a big guest list ahead without further ado zach let's tell everybody what happened hey did you guys see the game last night no what happened i missed all the action because i was we know how busy your life can be what happened you missed that what happened What happened is brought to you by ATS Traffic.

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242.375 - 264.902 Mike Halford

Start with a career path in traffic safety, receive competitive wages, and training at one of Canada's best managed companies. Visit them online at atstraffic.ca. We will begin the show with the announcement of yesterday. The National Hockey League once again decided to cram all of its pertinent news into a three-week window in the offseason. The Hockey Hall of Fame 2026 class got announced.

265.302 - 278.639 Mike Halford

Patrice Bergeron, Carey Price, Keith Kachuk, Becca Rinne, and Cindy Curley were elected as players. Brian Burke, former Vancouver Canucks general manager, will be inducted as a builder. A lot to unpack from this one, Jason, as well.

278.779 - 310.379 Sam Dykstra

Yeah, well, it kind of coincides with a lot of news that's happening right now. What a time for Keith Kachuk to get in. with the Ottawa Senators vowing on the very same day to keep pushing forward after his son Brady forced his way to the Florida Panthers to play with Keith Kachuk's other son, Matthew. I wonder how much of a driving force Keith Kachuk was in getting Brady Kachuk to Florida.

310.639 - 315.225 Sam Dykstra

Not in telling the Ottawa Senators what to do, but...

315.205 - 333.988 Mike Halford

in advising brady what to do now are you suggesting that a podcast co-hosted by the two brothers that often featured the father as a guest A podcast on which the dad openly asked about Brady's contractual situation in Ottawa and how many years he had left on his contract. Are you suggesting?

Chapter 4: How are Canadian teams perceived in terms of player retention?

340.436 - 353.741 Sam Dykstra

Yeah. I mean, there's lots of rumors about... Legal online one. Yeah. Keith Kachuk kind of wanting this to happen. And I guess I don't blame Keith Kachuk.

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353.761 - 354.361 Hazel Mae

It's not tampering.

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354.381 - 382.24 Sam Dykstra

Well, I guess I don't blame Keith Kachuk for wanting that to happen. Who wouldn't want his two sons to play for a team that may very well go into next season as the Stanley Cup favorite? I haven't looked at the odds yet, though. They have to be. you know, with the return of Barkoff, the addition of Brady Kachuk, once they figure out their goaltending situation, I'm sure they're the favorites.

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383.702 - 409.03 Sam Dykstra

Keith Kachuk was one of the major faces of American hockey in the 90s, part of that 1996 World Cup team that beat Canada. And, you know, until recently, it was the miracle on ice, and it was the 1996 World Cup. of hockey win for the Americans. Those were the big two. And we heard about the miracle on ice a lot.

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409.371 - 436.837 Sam Dykstra

And now we're going to have to hear about another game that happened, but we'll skip past that. Kachuk liked Jeremy Roenick, though, who was another face of American hockey in the 90s. And Roenick was inducted two years ago. Those guys both never won a Stanley Cup. And I also wonder... How much that has driven Keith Kachuk in his retirement. Like, he wanted to get his boys a Stanley Cup.

437.298 - 442.285 Mike Halford

I mean, yeah. You've got to think it's a major, major factor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Without question.

442.846 - 460.813 Sam Dykstra

Okay, speaking of never winning a Stanley Cup, a couple of elite goalies who never won the Cup were inducted as well in Carey Price and Pekka Rinne. They joined recent inductees Roberto Luongo and Henrik Lundqvist, who never lifted the cup despite getting very close.

Chapter 5: What challenges do Canadian teams face compared to American teams?

460.893 - 482.953 Sam Dykstra

All four of those guys made it to the Stanley Cup final and lost. Not to take anything away from those four guys. Nope. But I think we're just seeing more and more of it now. We're seeing these guys get into the Hall of Fame, and it's harder and harder to win the Stanley Cup now. Sure. And there's going to be a lot more of them. Connor McDavid.

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484.677 - 498.525 Sam Dykstra

Which goalies playing today, I'm wondering, are locks for the Hall of Fame? Ooh, that's a great question. I think you've got Brodsky. Yeah, he's in. Vasilevsky. He's in. Is Jonathan Quick still active?

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498.585 - 499.345 Jason Brough

He just retired.

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499.406 - 501.468 Sam Dykstra

He just retired, but he was active last season.

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501.488 - 501.788 Mike Halford

He's in.

502.068 - 526.413 Sam Dykstra

I think he's in. Connor Hellebuck is on pace. Never won a Stanley Cup, though. But I think that Olympic gold is going to help him a lot. Don't forget about the Presidential Medal of Freedom. That's true. That helps. I'm not sure he's a lock yet because he hasn't won as much in the playoffs as... The other three I mentioned, Bobrovsky, Vasilevsky, and Jonathan Quick.

526.433 - 542.727 Sam Dykstra

I mean, all three of those guys have won Stanley Cups. I was looking at the stats last night, and I was like, I bet there's someone who would make the case for Freddie Anderson just because of how much he's won. And actually, his numbers are, if you look at his save percentage, it's pretty high.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of the player empowerment era in the NHL?

542.767 - 572.4 Sam Dykstra

But that person would not be me. Not today. Who would make the case for Freddie Anderson. Okay, let's move on to Patrice Bergeron because... I have a question. Okay. Does Patrice Bergeron getting in on the first ballot make us feel any better or different about 2011? Not that this was unexpected, but now that it's official, because I've always maintained that

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574.253 - 579.811 Sam Dykstra

people never really appreciated how good that Bruins team really was at the time.

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580.373 - 580.614 Jason Brough

Sure.

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580.634 - 609.492 Sam Dykstra

In large part because guys like Bergeron and Brad Marchand were still pretty young and maybe a bit underappreciated at that time. Bergeron didn't win his first Selkie until 2012, the year after, and then he went on to win like six of them and was largely considered the best two-way player, you know, at the time. Certainly there were some others, but, you know, six Selkies says a lot. Um,

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610.737 - 632.813 Sam Dykstra

There were five first ballot Hall of Famers in that 2011 series. Three on the Canucks, the Sedins, and Luongo. Two on the Bruins with Chara and Bergeron. And then Marchand will one day get in. He's going to get in one day. Will he get in on the first ballot? I don't know. I mean, that's the difference. I mean, five first ballot Hall of Famers in a Stanley Cup series. And I still think...

632.793 - 638.238 Sam Dykstra

Tim Thomas makes a strong case, although his career was relatively short. He's a weird one.

638.919 - 658.698 Mike Halford

You could make the argument that in a small window, he was the best of all of the Hall of Fame goalies in his peer group. Luongo, Lundqvist, now Rene, now Carey Price. There was, I mean, it was a small window, but when that, I mean, you consider over the course of two years, he was the elite of the elite.

Chapter 7: How does winning a Stanley Cup in Canada differ from winning in the U.S.?

658.799 - 662.683 Mike Halford

Now it was a short, short run of dominance. And you've seen this in other Hall of Famers, too.

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662.703 - 666.207 Sam Dykstra

Con Swipe Trophy was, you know, like a no-brainer that year as well.

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666.547 - 680.724 Mike Halford

Yeah, without question. And to use that to circle back to your earlier point, I do think sometimes that's part of the reason why when we look back on 2011, we look at it from a multitude of different angles because we've dissected it every way imaginable as a market.

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681.364 - 697.913 Mike Halford

One of the things that I think you're right about that we don't often look at and give credit to is how good that Bruins team was, right? They were a very good team. I mean, tremendous, right? They should have won more than one Stanley Cup. Absolutely, right? When you consider that at that stage... When you think about it, they were failures.

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698.574 - 704.367 Sam Dykstra

That's a good way of looking at it, too. They failed just as much as the Canucks, I would say. Equal failures.

705.049 - 720.19 Mike Halford

Yeah, but Bergeron was 25 and Marchand was 22. And then it took Marchand to go to Florida before he won another cup, and Bergeron never won another one. But both those guys scored massive goals in games six and seven. Yeah, it's just interesting that that was their Bruins peak. It was in 2011.

721.291 - 749.514 Sam Dykstra

Okay, we got to mention Brian Burke, too, one of the more compelling figures in Vancouver sports history. It wasn't just that he was the general manager who pulled off the trade that brought the Sedins to the Canucks. It was the way he carried himself. It was the way he was so outspoken with the media, how he would pick fights with reporters and kind of relish the fight.

751.196 - 753.961 Sam Dykstra

You don't get guys like that anymore.

754.321 - 754.501 Mike Halford

No.

Chapter 8: What future trends can we expect in the NHL regarding player movement?

780.109 - 814.152 Sam Dykstra

No. And I think that's... Okay, because I'm going to play a clip from... And some of you might actually be almost offended by this clip. This is Brian Burke, who used to go on with Dan Russell, who was a fixture in the Vancouver sports media. He had one of those late-night call-in sports radio shows that little Jason listened to. And once a week, and this is another crazy thing,

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814.857 - 819.142 Sam Dykstra

Brian Burke would go on with Dan Russell.

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819.602 - 821.284 Mike Halford

Brian on line one from Vancouver.

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821.645 - 846.59 Sam Dykstra

And he would get interviewed by Dan Russell, and he would take callers. And by the way, Brian Burke was not the general manager at this point when he started doing this. He was working under Pat Quinn. I can't remember what his title was. Probably the director of hockey ops or a citizen general manager, whatever. It doesn't matter. But let me just repeat that.

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847.952 - 856.447 Sam Dykstra

The Vancouver Canucks had an assistant general manager who would go on a sports radio show once a week and mix it up with the fans.

856.647 - 857.849 Mike Halford

It was a different time, man.

858.65 - 884.8 Sam Dykstra

And the things that Berkey would say on that show, he did not care for a lot of the Vancouver media. And one in particular... was Tony Gallagher. And I want to play a clip that is going to bring you back to, well, a time, if you're a younger listener, you won't remember this time. And the older listeners will be like, kind of miss these times.

886.603 - 908.238 Greg Wyshynski

It doesn't matter with Tony Gallagher. Like I said before in the air, Tony Gallagher's idea of an ideal assignment would be to cover a famine in Ethiopia because he would love the sufferings. I don't really respect Tony as a person or as a reporter. I don't like Tony. I won't talk to Tony. Why not take the high road? Why not just ignore him and just do your business as per usual?

909.199 - 924.48 Greg Wyshynski

To take the high road and stay out of the gutter, you have to have someone that will do the same. Great example. We draft Alex Dorian up. And you asked me on the show, Dan, who do I think we'd get? And I said, I think we'll end up with Richard Van Pachock, which we did. Now, the Philadelphia Flyers,

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