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Chapter 1: What are the latest updates on the Vancouver Canucks?
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Are we still working on that one? Randy is going to join us momentarily here. A presentation of bells and whistles. We will start. With the conversation, I thought we were going to get to in the first segment of the show, but we didn't yet. And that's the latest, I'm using air quotes on that, with Brandon Gallagher. IMAC wrote about it for Sportsnet.
I know that the agent, Jerry Johansson, was on with Donnie and Dolly yesterday. What did the agent say? Essentially confirmed that there was some interest from Vancouver, but he added that the Canucks, well, they got a lot on their plates right now. They're just so busy. Yeah, big NHL entry draft coming up in which they're going to make four picks in the first 41.
There's some other things that they might need to attend to as well. So it seems like the interest is very much there, but nothing may be imminent. So we will now turn our attention and go to the Able Auctions hotline. As mentioned, our next guest is is the presentation of bells and whistles Canucks analyst Randy Janda here on the Halford and Brush Show on Sportsnet 650. Morning, Randy.
How are you?
Good morning, boys. I'm doing well. How are you?
We are well as well. Thanks for taking the time as always. So let's start with Brendan Gallagher. I'm sure you're up to speed on everything that's happened over the last week and then the last 24 hours. Where are you at on the idea, the idea of the Canucks bringing in Brendan Gallagher?
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Chapter 2: How does Brendan Gallagher fit into the Canucks' future plans?
And then he goes to Tampa for a couple of seasons, plays almost a full season, gets his goals up to 19 goals, around 20 goals, and just became a playoff performer where during the regular season, it's tough to get your level up as a veteran player. But we saw what Perry could do in the playoffs. He was a guy that got to the middle of the ice. He was able to score big goals.
And that's the player that I look at. and had a bit of that revival.
So I think there, there may be a few teams that are interested, but one thing is for sure, if that market doesn't develop in Vancouver is, you know, one of the teams that's interested, maybe out of a couple that are rebuilding teams, I think that would be high on Brendan's list because of his local connections and, you know, just his,
I there's been a real connection to this market ever since he played junior here. But the question is, if you offer a player a chance to get ice time and show what their worth is at an advanced age of 34, which is not that advanced in today's day and age. It really comes down to Jerry Johansson, the agent for Brendan Gallagher. Can he find that market? He's been able to talk to other teams.
Montreal allowed him to do that. Now, is there a market out there? I'm not entirely sure because, guys, we know it's a fast game, right? And once you hit 34, 35 years of age, that speed does drop off. So that's the question that we don't know of. Do the elite teams in the NHL want to look at a Brendan Gallagher right now?
So another guy that I'm curious about is Jake DeBrusque, because we all know that he made some comments last season about not wanting to be on a rebuilding team, and then he walked back those comments. But I think a lot of us still expect the Canucks to explore training him. And I'm trying to figure out what his value would be. Because in a rising cap environment...
A guy like DeBrus who can score and has a cap hit of just five and a half million, in theory, he should have some value. I mean, look at the, he has 51 goals for the Canucks over the last two years, which is the most of any Canuck over those last two years. But I looked at the NHL stats last night, and these are the guys that have had 51 goals over the last two years.
Nazem Khadri, Sam Bennett, Travis Konechny, Mitch Marner, Brady Kachuk, Andrei Sveshnikov. Now, I realize, okay, I'm not an idiot. Well, I am, but not in this case. I realize that some of those other guys, first of all, some of them have been injured. They haven't played as many games like Brady Kachuk. Some of them bring much more in other areas of the game than Jake DeBrusque has.
But this guy can put the puck in the net, and I feel like he should have value on the trade market. What do you think?
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Chapter 3: What is the market value for Brendan Gallagher right now?
They were excited to see what he could offer, and then he gets injured, right? So that was unlucky. The other aspect is, I think from a... Like, you're not going to... For a Niels Hoaglander trade, I don't think you're not getting a great deal like you were at the end of 2023-2024 when he scored 24 goals.
You're looking at something that might be a similar type of player going back the other way or maybe a lower pick. He was the 40th pick overall in the 2019 draft. But I think there would be interest from a team to say, hey, he didn't work out of Vancouver. We know when he's playing well, he's a pain in the rear end to play against. It just hasn't worked in Vancouver.
And you start looking at the coaches that he's played for going all the way back to 2021, 2020. He hasn't had the trust. And Jason, I'll go back further. I remember talking to the coach of Rogla. We interviewed him way back when, Cam Abbott, and he had the same questions about Nils Hoaglander back in Sweden with his Swedish team as well.
So this is a thing that's been going on with Nils going back to his days in Sweden. So it's not exactly new, but I think For an acquiring team, yes, you can say, hey, we're not going to give you much. We're going to give you somebody maybe in the same age range, maybe a little younger. We're going to give you somebody in a similar situation or a lower draft pick.
Just given his motor, his ability to be a guy that does play hard, when he was clicking at that 24-goal season, he was in the middle of the ice all the time. How many goals were deflections? How many goals were in that blue paint? I believe there would be a GM saying, hey, if we can find that guy, we might be able to have something here.
I don't know if it's going to work for the Vancouver Canucks because it feels like anymore that we saw two seasons ago.
Did you find it difficult to judge the performances of the Canucks young defenseman given the way the team played last season and given the way, frankly, it was coached?
I think on both fronts, like, you know, when you've got that many young defensemen in the lineup, right, when you're talking about the longer you're talking about the William and Elias Pettersson, they ate a lot of minutes, right? Like this is when we talk about, you know, throwing them in the deep end, they were thrown in the deep end.
And I think that's no doubt what the market wanted in a lot of ways of like, Hey, if the season has gone awry, at least play the young kids. But you have to be careful with that as well, because not all experience is good experience, right? Where you eat a lot of minutes and your body, it kind of tells you that, Hey man, I'm running out of gas.
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Chapter 4: How are the Canucks' young players performing under pressure?
Looking forward to it. Thanks, Randy. Appreciate this, bud. Cheers, boys. Randy Janda, presentation of bells and whistles here on the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. So here's what we learned to set the table for the What We Learned segment. According to Pierre Lebrun, the NHL is moving ahead with its investigation on Mike Babcock and events in Columbus as per the NHLPA request.
Now, it's not written here, but what this means is the Oilers have told the NHL, yeah, this is the guy we want. This is the guy we want to hire. So you go do that investigation. Do your worst, NHL. Please don't find anything else. Do your worst, NHL. You can't hire him. Oh, you did your worst. What did you guys think of that spicy little meatball that Frank dropped?
That there might be even more evidence of, what would you call it, impropriety or improper conduct from Babcock than what we knew about in Columbus? I thought that was awfully interesting. It was not implied, wasn't it? Before Frank even said that. You had to know there was more stories. With the amount of stories we've had already. Brick killed a guy. Yeah. Probably should lay low for a while.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the latest NHLPA investigation?
You got to rip the puck, eh? Yeah. And you know what? I was nodding along the whole time. I'm like, F&A rights, boys. You know? Anyway. Oh, that'd be a game changer, bud.
Yeah.
Anyway, I think that I'm bringing this up, podcast and, you know, the language and the accents aside. There's definitely something here, and we talked about this earlier. It's a two-pronged thing. One... There are definitely some American players that want to go play in America. Can we just say it out loud? Sure. It's their country.
I think they were emboldened, invigorated, buoyed by a few different things. Geopolitical implications, maybe? Sure, but if you want to take it out of that realm and put it in hockey, and one thing, the Kachuk brothers have been banging this drum for a long time. It's like they feel like they're sick and tired of Canada being the bar for hockey, the home of hockey, where hockey matters most.
They're like, you know, we're Americans. We're winning on all of these international platforms, and it's to the point now where you've got generational guys whose fathers, a lot of the NHL players, those guys grew up in St. Louis, right? They're like, this is home for us. We're winners, Stanley cups, gold medals, all of it. We want to do this, and we want to say, yeah, plant our flag. U.S.
is just as talented and deep-rooted as a home of hockey. Laddie, you would know this better than we would. What is Florida's plan in goal this season? Because Bobrovsky's out of contract. Tarasov was there last night. He's out of contract, too. He's out of contract, too. He's a pending UFA, and Bobrovsky's 37. I don't know if... I don't know if the Panthers want to give him another deal.
I think they want to bring him back, but I think he's just commanding way more money than they would have expected him at this age to command. So this rumor, this speculation, even if it wasn't reported, I think a lot of people would be like, geez, I wonder if Hellebuck will want to go there. Yeah. Doesn't it make a ton of sense? Well, Luongo's there as the head of goaltending.
He has some sway, I feel like, bringing a guy like Halibut in. Let's just connect all the very obvious dots here. End of year media availability, Connor Halibut was pretty outspoken about how he was not happy with the way things have gone in Winnipeg. And also looking towards the future, he's like, how do we become...
a contender because they weren't even a playoff team, nevermind a playoff contender this year. Right? So that's out there. Secondly, who's he teammates with on the Olympic team, Quinn Hughes, Matthew Kachuk, Dylan Larkin. What do all these guys have in common? They either force their way out of their situations or in the case of Larkin, they're in the process of doing it.
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Chapter 6: How does the coaching style affect the Canucks' young defensemen?
I don't care for this Harold Sneps slander. Game one, 1982 Stanley Cup final. The Canucks are on Long Island playing the heavily favored Islanders. They actually have a 5-4 lead fairly late in the third period. Mike Bossy scores because he's Mike Bossy, and that's what he does to force overtime.
And in overtime, Harold Sneps has the puck behind the Canucks net, and he looks up, and he's like, oh, I'm going to make a pass up the middle. One problem. Mike Bossy was there. And Mike Bossy. He was pretty good, right? Yeah. And he scored. And the Islanders won game one. The Canucks kept it pretty close in game two as well.
I think they lost by two goals, and then they came back to the Coliseum, and they were dead men walking. Follow-up question. Yes. Who has the most powerful mustache in Canucks history? I was just thinking that. Is it Dave Babich, or is it Harold Stamps? Well, Babich is the one people think of first, but I think Harold Stamps gets overlooked. He gets overshadowed by Babich's stache.
To be fair, it's a great stache, but Stamps had a good one too. He doesn't get talked about enough. His mustache, I mean. Specifically. They should have honestly tested their testosterone levels because it must have been just through the roof. Through the roof. Dave Babich is the only guy where you can see his chest hair on his HockeyDB picture. It's amazing. It is amazing. It's incredible.
It comes up and it just... It's there. Tickling his mustache. Yeah. Arbutus Omar with what we learned. With the Canucks and their fans having gone through hell and finally seeing the light...
It feels like we can finally look down on desperate-to-win teams like Edmonton with some sense of superiority, knowing that they are going down a similar path of destruction like the Canucks did, but don't yet accept it. Okay, I don't feel exactly the same way about Edmonton. Me neither. But I feel that Toronto is doing it, and I feel that Winnipeg is doing it.
But I also understand Winnipeg's situation in that if they rebuild, that's tough, man. And they're always in this situation of like, wait, you actually signed with us? You want to stay here? Please never leave. We're never trading you. We're never trading you. Toronto, I'm going to be fascinated by it. Because I think they're screwed.
And they remind me of the Canucks, I don't know, either when they hired Torts or maybe when they hired Willie Desjardins, where you might be able to get like one last smoke out of the cigarette. Right. That last drag. You're not a little bit of filter, but right. Still fulfilling. That's their, that's their marketing slogan for the season. One last drag. Yeah. Yeah. Are you done with that?
And then you got to flick it away because, and you can't, you know, like once the cigarette is there to that point, there's no, there's no way you can put it back. It's fair. You know, that, that was the Canucks. Like, remember they, that first year with Willie, they made the playoffs and it was like, torts was the problem. Then they lose to Calgary, a much younger team.
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Chapter 7: What are the lessons learned from the Canucks' past mistakes?
Right. But there are legitimate dark horses out of... Like if Bosnia was to go on a run, I'd be like, there's a dark horse. Sure. But the Netherlands, no. Spain, obviously not. Don't you think having those teams just regularly playing very quality sides helps them? Your road through, I mean, here's the funny thing.
Like, your group through European qualifying might be tougher than your group at the World Cup in some of these instances. Certainly in the second round of qualifying. Like, you know, you're getting all the, you know, the first round. Oh, that's hard to say. The first round has some serious minnows in it, right? Like who replied today? Jabralter.
But Bosnia beating Wales and Italy en route to a group where they're going to be playing Qatar and Canada. There's not differences between those teams. In fact, those teams are better. Right. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah. I mean, it says it all right there. There's going to be some hilarious games. I was looking at the FanFest schedule, by the way. I was going to like, I wanted to go down.
On a Saturday and Sunday. And I keep forgetting. I'm like, Cape Verde is in this. Curacao, Haiti. There are going to be some group stage games where you're amazed at some of the players that you're watching. Yeah. You know? Because they're not of the caliber. Some of the caliber gaps in terms of professional footballers in the group stage is going to be hilarious.
You're going to be talking about guys that apply their trade for the most prestigious club teams in the world. And other guys, they play for like Brooklyn FC.
Yeah.
Here's a question. I'm putting you on the spot here. Yeah. Okay. So PSG, the best club team in the world. As anointed by the Champions League. They just won the Champions League. Okay. We'll say that. Would they win the World Cup? Going into a tournament, they'd be at such an advantage because they train together all the time. Talent level, though.
Yeah.
The most difficult thing for a lot of national teams is to find chemistry and cohesion in a short period of time. It's why the games sometimes get really jammed. But do they have more talent than... Does PSG... This is really putting you on the spot. Does PSG have more talent than France? No. But other countries, absolutely, PSG does. Yes. But the French national team is ridiculous.
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Chapter 8: What did the hosts learn from this episode's discussion?
We've been waiting for it forever. It gets underway tomorrow. And we'll be back in the morning to preview it all. For now, though, we've got to say goodbye. Thank you all for listening, and thank you all for contributing. Signing off, I have been Mike Halford. He's been Jason Brough. He's been A-Dog, and he's been Laddie. This has been the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650.