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Halford & Brough in the Morning

Sat Talks Canucks + What We Learned

12 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent news about the Canucks is discussed?

0.031 - 39.199 Mike Halford

Well, it's time to chat with Santiar. We'll talk about the hockey now. Let's chat with Santiar. Checking in on the Canucks. Well, it's time to chat with Santiar. We'll talk about the hockey now. Checking in on the Canucks. Talking hockey. 8 o'clock on a Tuesday. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Halford Brough, Sports Night 650. Halford and Brough in the morning is brought to you by Sands & Associates.

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39.219 - 45.628 Mike Halford

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46.048 - 47.43 Jason Brough

Oh, you just blew right through it, eh?

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Chapter 2: What updates does Satiar Shah provide on the Canucks' GM situation?

47.45 - 65.212 Mike Halford

Yeah, I can't do it. I can never time it. I don't know when it's coming. You just put your head down. Just got to power through it. I respect it. I don't know. I can't time it. It's too long into the song. Just fight through it.

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65.513 - 67.676 Unknown

You got to count to 45 and on 45.

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67.997 - 68.999 Mike Halford

Do you think it's actually 45?

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69.159 - 70.281 Unknown

It feels like 45.

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71.423 - 76.513 Mike Halford

It feels longer. By the way, you should visit them at sands-trustee.com.

Chapter 3: How are the Sedins involved in the Canucks' management discussions?

76.533 - 93.589 Mike Halford

We are in hour three of the program. Satyar Shah is going to join us in just a moment here. Hour three is brought to you by the BC Construction Safety Alliance. Making safety simpler by giving construction companies best in tools, resources, and safety training. Visit them online at bccsa.ca. Hi, Greg.

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93.569 - 97.934 Jason Brough

It is exactly 45 seconds into it. Get out of here. So if you want to count it out.

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98.195 - 103.682 Unknown

What you got to do is as you're reading, count in your head. One, two. I'm going to be like the guy from Wayne's Row.

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103.702 - 105.083 Mike Halford

I'm bobbing my head.

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105.103 - 107.106 Unknown

Don't bob your head. Garth, we can see you bobbing your head.

Chapter 4: What potential changes are expected in the Canucks' front office?

107.126 - 117.519 Mike Halford

Okay. Let's go down to the Able Auctions hotline. Our next guest, as mentioned, the host of Canucks Central right here on Sportsnet 650. Satyar Shah joins us now on the Halford and Brough show. What up, Sat?

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117.539 - 125.56 Satyar Shah

Yeah, that intro always throws me off too. I'm like waiting for the uh, and I'm going to see if it catches you off guard. But yeah, You just focused on getting your read done. That was good.

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125.721 - 141.287 Mike Halford

Just got to power through, buddy. You just got to power through. Okay. So a couple of hours ago, Rick Dollywall, venerable Canucks reporter, tweeted out that as of this morning, the Canucks have not decided on a GM. And he actually spelled have wrong.

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Chapter 5: What insights does Satiar Shah share about the Canucks' coaching staff?

141.307 - 153.615 Mike Halford

He spelled it with a G. So it's very on brand for Rick. He said, Ryan Johnson is still in the mix. Do you have any update whatsoever on this situation, Sat?

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154.797 - 174.367 Satyar Shah

Well, I mean, I do believe they are getting a lot closer to the deal. I don't get any outright denials when asking whether something would happen today or not. So we'll see if it's today or if it's tomorrow. But I don't think is the fact that nobody knows for sure yet who it's going to be.

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174.427 - 188.14 Satyar Shah

There have been rumors and suggestions that, oh, I think it's going to be Evan Gold or, you know, Ryan Johnson is still in the mix. But to their credit, for the amount of stuff that gets out and for the amount of stuff that gets discussed, nobody yet knows for sure who it's going to be. Now, there is...

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188.812 - 205.216 Satyar Shah

There's been a suspicion that all along it was going to end up being Evan Gold when he got serious about things. But as you're going through the finer details, things still have to be agreed upon. I'm not saying they haven't been or they've hit any sort of hurdles that they can't overcome. But when you go through the details, that still has to get figured out.

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Chapter 6: How does the conversation shift to the World Cup and its impact?

205.357 - 221.99 Satyar Shah

So I think it's been fascinating to try to figure out who has the inside edge or not and how that process is unfolding. But essentially, I think they're at the finer detail stage of doing things. So I don't think a decision is going to be that far off. So it's not today. I have a hard time seeing this going deep into the week.

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222.371 - 227.762 Jason Brough

Sat, do you know how long the Canucks have been speaking with the Sedins about an elevator role?

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228.907 - 246.46 Satyar Shah

So I think that this is something that has come up in some capacity in the past. And I do think over the past little while, it did pick up a little bit more in terms of what they're going to do. I had heard a suggestion that When Rutherford came in and he got a lay of the land and he got to know the twins, that he was very impressed by them.

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246.481 - 263.925 Satyar Shah

The organization as a whole has been, but the new people coming in and they wanted to see them have roles and increase their roles as time goes on. And I think part of Rutherford's plan was when he steps away, could the Sedins in some way, shape or form be part of what that new front office looks like. So I do think it had been something that they had thought

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270.385 - 277.616 Satyar Shah

Because when they were first handed their advisor positions back in 2021, they had the opportunity to take bigger roles with the organization.

Chapter 7: What lessons do the hosts share regarding player trades and team dynamics?

277.936 - 299.083 Satyar Shah

But they're the ones who turned down bigger, say, and say like a stronger title because they want to learn everything that it takes to be an executive, whether it's on the coaching side, development side, management side. How do we go about doing all things that an organization needs to do to be successful? They've gotten in and worked on those things a lot.

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299.204 - 304.763 Satyar Shah

And the thing that's impressed a lot of people, and we all know this about the cities because their work ethic was exemplary when they were planning.

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311.189 - 327.789 Satyar Shah

like go to Abbey and stay there, go to a different market to work on players and just essentially put a lot of hard hours and real work in to learning what it takes and trying to help players they're working with and also figuring out what it takes to scout and work as a management group in general.

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328.149 - 339.863 Satyar Shah

So I think that the way they've gone through that process, I think gave the organization confidence that they can offer them bigger roles again and this time they will be willing to do so. Now, I think the Sedins were the ones who always said,

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340.315 - 369.698 Satyar Shah

you kind of wondered are they willing to do something bigger and greater that has more responsibility or are they comfortable working with developing players and being in positions where no matter what happens over the years you're not going to be pointed at one way or another you're not going to be under duress but if you step up into a bigger role all of a sudden you're putting yourself into that jackpot so that's going to be really interesting for me to see is how significant are those titles because i do think the organization is really counting on them to be the big culture setters moving forward

370.302 - 401.878 Jason Brough

Okay, Jimmy Murphy out of Boston is reporting that Evan Gold... could be joined by two other members of the Bruins front office, including the assistant general manager, Jamie Langenbrunner, and the director of analytics, Jeremy Rogalski. What have you heard about this and what could it mean for some of the staff that are in Vancouver right now?

402.888 - 421.652 Satyar Shah

So I think for those positions, one thing I did hear is I think part of the process when you're talking to a guy like Evan Gold isn't just to be like, here's a contract for you and here's what we're looking for. Come and join our organization. When you're hired as a GM, you always want to bring somebody along with you, right?

421.892 - 426.998 Satyar Shah

Whether it's one or two executives or people you're comfortable with or somebody that you want to be your right-hand man.

Chapter 8: What conclusions do the hosts draw about the future of the Canucks?

427.079 - 446.278 Satyar Shah

We saw it when Rutherford initially came in. He had Clancy with him. Now, that changed as time went on, but you always come in with somebody initially. At the very least, that does happen. I think part of the discussion is how do you build that out with the Canucks? Now, how that is going or has gone, I think, is important. And I'm not saying it's not going to be Jamie Lange and Bernard.

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446.298 - 469.735 Satyar Shah

It may not be two executives. The one thing that I wonder about, if you're hiring two AGMs from one organization, only one is getting a legitimate job. promotion to GM, how is the team going to allow you to do that? And what are the mechanisms you're willing to put in place to allow that to happen? As in, are you giving Langenbrenner a bigger contract?

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469.755 - 488.407 Satyar Shah

Are you giving him a bigger title than just being a GM? Is he an associate GM? Is he a VP title? Like, how do you go about doing that? And Langenbrenner himself is was to some degree involved in the search in Vancouver as well. And again, I'm not saying he's not going to be the guy, but I do think it's not as simple as, oh, we just want this guy that's going to hire him.

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488.447 - 505.945 Satyar Shah

I think it's pretty complicated when you've taken two AGMs from one team. So I do think they'll get someone from Boston, potentially, maybe even a couple of people. But I think the way that would be outlined in terms of their role is really fascinating. Because unless Boston's like, we don't care about Lang and Brenner, Gold, we don't want this guy to be here anyways.

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506.285 - 523.641 Satyar Shah

Usually you don't see a team let two AGMs walk out the door at the same time. So I think that's going to be the real fascinating part of who are they able to bring out of Boston and what title is that person going to get? I don't know exactly what's going to happen with the executives currently with the Canucks. I would imagine we are going to see some change.

523.701 - 544.099 Satyar Shah

I've heard rumors about it, but I don't think anything's been fully clarified in terms of like this AGM or that AGM is 100% out. I think we'll find out here in pretty short order when a decision does come in. On Ryan Johnson in that sense, I think that's interesting because we talked about how if Evan Gold's going to be the guy, can we see Ryan Johnson be here long term?

544.379 - 562.729 Satyar Shah

I can't see him being here long term, but I also don't think it's one of those situations where if the Canucks hire Evan Gold today, that tomorrow Ryan Johnson is leaving the organization. Now, there's been a lot of talk about Nashville and whether... They're waiting for Ryan Johnson or not and how that's going to unfold. I don't think anybody truly knows what's going to happen there.

562.749 - 577.323 Satyar Shah

I know Cam Robinson reported that they already have their GM in waiting and it's not going to be Ryan Johnson. We'll see how that all unfolds. But I don't anticipate that he's going to just quit and go. And I think one of the reasons why they're really high on Ryan, too, is they love the character that he has.

577.403 - 594.109 Satyar Shah

Now, in terms of ownership, would they prefer to go with the gold or as opposed to go with Ryan Johnson? I think that's going to be the question, of course. But I think in terms of a character standpoint, somebody who's been doing a lot of work behind the scenes as a GM, essentially running meetings, doing things. that he's in really good standing in the organization.

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