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Halford & Brough in the Morning

The Sedins Are Right There

11 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What sports events were highlighted from the weekend?

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You're listening to Halford & Brough.

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Wasn't going to miss that empty net. He scores! It's over! Series over! Jefferson Blake wins it in overtime!

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35.604 - 42.137 Chris Cuthbert

They have talked to the Sedins about taking a larger role and they were pondering the idea.

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43.332 - 54.4 Jason Brough

Good morning, Vancouver. Six o'clock on a Monday. Happy Monday, everybody. This is Halford. It is Brough. It is Sportsnet 650. We are coming to you live from the Kintec Studios in beautiful Mount Pleasant in Vancouver. Jason, good morning.

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Good morning. Was that the Sedin's music?

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I don't know.

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I just heard ABBA, by the way. It's ABBA.

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Adog, good morning. Good morning. And Laddie, good morning to you as well. Hello, hello. Halverd and Brough for the morning is brought to you by Sands and Associates. They're open seven days a week and open late to help you get debt free. With no judgment or upfront fees, visit them today at sands-trustee.com.

Chapter 2: What updates are there on the Vancouver Canucks front office search?

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Chapter 3: How are the Sedins potentially involved in the Canucks' management?

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108.183 - 128.748 Jason Brough

Got a lot to get into on the show. Let's begin with our morning guest list. It's the Duik Morning Drive brought to you by the Duik Auto Group. It begins at 7 o'clock. You heard his voice in the intro. Chris Cuthbert's going to join the program. Sportsnet NHL PXP man on the call for Habs Sabres, in which the Habs went ahead two games to one last night, thanks to a 6-2 victory at Saint-Tropez.

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Habs are now just two wins away from the Easter Conference final. We'll talk to Chris Cuthbert about all that at 7 o'clock this morning. 7.30, here's an interesting one. We've got an investigative reporter here. on the program. Kenny Jacoby, who's an investigative reporter for USA Today, writing about abuses of power in sports, higher education, law enforcement.

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Recently, his coverage is focused on the financial exploitation in the business of Youth hockey is a big story in the U.S. right now. The youth hockey circles in America. There was an article that he wrote about an investment firm that has taken over a bunch of youth hockey teams in the U.S. and how families are paying the price. Very interesting story.

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We'll talk to Kenny about it at 730 this morning. 8 o'clock, Kevin Woodley from NHL.com and InGoal Magazine is going to join the program. We will talk Canucks with Kev.

Chapter 4: What roles could the Sedins take in the Vancouver Canucks organization?

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Is this the week we finally learn who the next general manager and president of hockey ops will be for the club? We can also talk Stanley Cup playoffs and all the goaltending stories. How about Jakob Dobesch? in Montreal turning into a folk hero, although he says he's not. We've got the audio. We can play it later. Sounds like a guy who's a folk hero.

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Yeah, I think all my folk hero questions will be answered by my shirt that says I am not a folk hero. Anyway, we'll talk to Kevin Woodley about all that and more at 8 o'clock this morning. That's the guest list. That's what's happening on the show. Greg, without further ado, let's tell everybody what happened.

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Hey, did you guys see the game last night? No. What?

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This is the longest running segment on the Halford and Brough show, I think. We've been doing what happened for forever. If you want to get in, get a hold of us, 650-650. You can text right into the Dunbar Lumber text message in basket. Anyway, let's get to the Vancouver Canucks. This is like what happened, but also what might be happening. Is this the week, Jason?

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Is this the week we finally get answers on the GM search?

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Well, let's go back to last Friday when we were last on the air and it was reportedly down to Evan Gold and Ryan Johnson for the job of the new general manager. But there were some who wondered over the weekend if maybe both could play a role in the front office together. Since then, we've heard, hey Moj, that maybe Jamie Langenbrunner could come over from the Bruins organization with gold.

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So there's another name to add to the speculation. But we are still very much in the dark when it comes to how the front office will be structured and who will report to who. Will there be a president of hockey ops or senior executive equivalent? Or will Jim Rutherford play the mentor role from a distance because he is stepping away from the team and is not expected to be in Vancouver full time?

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Well, let's add some more names to the list. And this is courtesy Elliot Freeman, the latest 32 Thoughts podcast. And we wondered at times. What are the Sedins doing? What are they up to?

Chapter 5: What challenges do the Sedins face if they take on a larger role?

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They could maybe help. Team needs some character. Sedins have character. Sure do. The last culture that this Canucks team had that was worth a damn was built and headlined and led by the Sedins. But, you know, as my understanding... And when people would text into the show, they would ask, what are the Sedins up to? I was like, I think they're pretty happy just being player development guys.

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Running. They love running. But work-wise, they were happy working out in Abbotsford a lot of the time. And, you know, for example, they put in a lot with Linus Carlsen. And Linus Carlsen took great strides. And I think they liked that. They liked working with guys that wanted to work on the ice, talking about skills, talking about development. But now it seems like the Sedins have been asked –

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If you want to do something bigger, and here's Elliott Friedman on the latest 32 Thoughts podcast.

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So I think Monday could be a big day for the Canucks, maybe not necessarily in terms of an announcement, but in terms of a decision and an internal decision being made. And possibly an idea of how the structure is going to work. And the answer to your question is yes, Kyle. I don't think it is because Toronto did it. I think it is something in the works even before Toronto made their decision.

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But I do think the Canucks have asked the Sedins if they want to take more of a role. and how willing they would be in taking a greater role. If it happens, Kyle, I'm going to call it the Swedish startup. And that is Toronto, where John Chayka has the ultimate authority. But as we know, Matt Sundin is there in a major advisory role with a vice presidential title.

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I don't know what the titles would be in Vancouver if this is accepted, but I do believe that they have talked to the Sundins about taking a larger role and they were pondering the idea. And I think there's a hope that there will be clarity in addition to who the new head of hockey operations will be.

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And I know a lot of us have been talking about Evan Gold and Ryan Johnson, but I think the Sedin's role in this could be important if they decide to accept the mission as it's been presented to them. So I think we're kind of awaiting two decisions here. Number one, who the head of hockey operations will be. And number two, are the Sedins willing to take a bigger role? And you know what?

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Now that they've seen how it might work in Toronto, you know, Sundin had to move from Sweden to, to Ontario for it. The Sedins are already there. It's not like they would be uprooting their families.

Chapter 6: How does the Canucks' management structure impact team culture?

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So I think it just comes down to time. How do they feel? And I think it would be a great thing for the Canucks if they did it. Obviously, it's their decision.

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So both of them work in player development as it stands right now. So I guess from what you're understanding is the ball's kind of in their court of like, is this something we want to do? And then the next steps from there.

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556.404 - 578.728 Chris Cuthbert

Yeah. I think so, Kyle. I just think that they were asked and presented with the opportunity. I think that's probably the best way to describe it. It's just that it's such a moving target, and also you have so much respect for them. I don't want to put words into their mouths, but it's something along those lines, yes. Excellent.

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581.628 - 608.7 Mike Halford

Excellent. So, obviously, this is big news. And there's a lot to discuss just when it comes to the Sedins. you know, being involved in what role they might play. I mean, the way Freed just hinting at it, it's the senior executive's role, president of hockey ops, co-president of hockey ops. I don't know.

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Who knows?

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Who knows how it'll be? You know, someone texted in, well, maybe if Ryan Johnson gets promoted, they'll take over in Abbotsford. it's not the sense really I got that they were like the, the big news was going to be that they're going to take over in Abbotsford. I think, you know, they've been looking for, um, maybe a senior executive and they talked about bringing in a guy like Shane Doan.

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And I know he got an interview and, You know, the role for him would have been, you know, not taking over Abbotsford. It would be a senior executive that was providing a public face, but also, you know, a high character guy that could turn the culture and the team around. Yeah, I did think it was interesting. Okay, hold on, hold on. Okay, I'm still going.

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But before we get to all that conversation... The big question I've got is when did this start? When were the Sedins asked if they wanted to play a bigger role? Did they go down the road of all these interviews and be like, nothing really stands out to me?

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Did you think it was interesting that Freed mentioned twice that this had nothing to do with the fact that Toronto gave Matt Sundin a the role he was given, yet continued to reference the role that Matt Sundin was given by the Toronto Maple Leafs. As a matter of fact, the clip started by saying, like, this isn't because Toronto did it.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of hiring a new general manager for the Canucks?

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The response to the Leafs' decision was so positive, we should do something like that. Like, is there another shakeout there we can hire? I wonder if this is...

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If this is part of what we've heard from a couple different insiders that everything was up for reassessment in this organization after the season that they had, that every level and every position and every executive and even down, you know, we talk about there might be major changes in the scouting department. I wonder if everything, everything was up for grabs.

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And that's why this has been such a wide reaching event. such a long and lengthy search because they are trying to sort of rebrand and refill the positions of almost every significant level of this team.

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Remember when I kept saying, and I'm not saying I'm the one that started the charge for this, but remember when I kept saying they've got a real opportunity here to completely reinvent what they're about as an organization. Yeah, I think we all said that. Yeah, I didn't think that it would go to the lengths of

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bringing in significant players at every different level, but it sounds like it might be going that direction.

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We could have entirely new general managers, entirely new assistant general managers, an entirely new vision and representative at the president of hockey ops level, and maybe there's going to be an overhaul to what the scouting department looks like as well, which I think is a great thing.

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But aren't you very curious to learn or to know when the Canucks went to the Sedins with this offer? Like, has this been going on for a while or did they go through this process and be like, geez, like, what are we going to do here? I mean, we're into May 11th today and we're just hearing this stuff about the Sedins. That surprises me, right?

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It feels almost like, it feels, which is good journalism, it feels. Yeah, it feels good journalism. No, no, but it does feel like they went through this process and then and then they're like, I see where you're going with this.

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I don't think that's a fair.

Chapter 8: How does the Sedins' potential involvement reflect on the team's future?

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Yeah. First of all, I'd be happy with it. I think the Sedins make a lot more sense to bring in than Shane Doan. And I had a lot of time for Shane Doan and the idea that he could work with the organization in a leadership role and a bit of a mentor role, not just for the execs but also for the players. Because I think when you bring in players and there are –

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you know, when it comes to the city and first ballot hall of fame guys, we're hunting the show. Like there is a bit of an expectation there that, you know, you live up to the standards. Sure. Right. That, that they set. Um, and I have all the respect in the world for the cities and they are so competitive and they, their habits are down and,

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And I think that's what this organization, frankly, has to get back to doing. Now, are they going to be right for this role? I don't know. I don't know. You'd have to ask them. It's a tough role. Trevor Linden was a hero in this market, and he did everything right for the most part. And then he came in, and he just...

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You know, he was on board with Jim Benning and the ownership group for a few years. Then things went a little bit sour on the ice, and he realized, man, you know, I think this is going to need a rebuild. And Jim Benning said, no, I don't think it's going to need a rebuild. We'll be good in two years. And ownership went with the guy that said they could turn it around quickly.

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Now, Trevor Linden has since been proven, you know, correct.

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Yeah.

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But, you know, ownership may still have that bias towards like, hey, when are we going to get through this? Because I'd like it to be yesterday.

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Yeah, you just I mean, I think the idea there, the one sort of fatal flaw with in hindsight with the Benning Linden thing was that they hired two guys that weren't in lockstep throughout. Right. That Linden hired Benning and I think hired him on the pretense that he was going to be the sort of traditional scout draft and develop guy.

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But they never had the same alignment and vision when the going got tough. And that's a conversation you probably need to have way in advance. Like, what happens if this doesn't go right? Now, to your point, one thing I'll say, to the question you're asking about when this all came about and if I'm intrigued by it,

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