Chapter 1: Who is Belal Khaled and what is his background?
Bilal Khaled is in the building, everybody. Famous photojournalist extraordinaire. You're born and raised in Gaza. Yeah. And he is a famous photojournalist. Worked for Al Jazeera.
Worked for... You did Anadolu Agency too. Yeah, I used to work for Anadolu Agency since 2013. And I used also to cover the genocide for Anadolu Agency, AFP and multi agencies also. And I work for TRT Arabi, also TRT.
Wow, TRT, the Turkish state broadcaster as well. Yeah, he's a legend. I'm honored to have you here. Thank you for everything you've done. And also thank you for coming on the broadcast. I brought you on today because, well, one of the reasons why I brought you on is because I wanted to see if we could potentially go and see the Palestinian complex that exists here in Gaza.
I mean, I'm sorry, in Qatar, in Doha. where a lot of people that have left Gaza, have escaped Gaza, have found a home here, found shelter here, and then they're getting hospital treatment here. And then I wanted you to maybe speak on the conditions and your personal experiences as being a photojournalist who escaped Gaza as well.
So, first of all, I want to just clear a point. No one left Gaza, no one escaped from Gaza with his choice, actually. Yeah. We found ourselves, all of the people, they don't have the luxury of choices because if you stay there, you're going to die. If you also left Gaza, also your soul, it's going to die because you took it from the body. Our body, it's the homeland. Our body, it's...
It's the land where we grow up. I raised up in a refugee camp, in Khan Younes refugee camp. All of my childhood, all of memories, all of my friends, they killed at that area. They erased that area. They bombed my house. They erased everything there. So we found ourselves in a point you cannot choose, like I should go or I should stay.
For me, my brother got injured, so I should stay with him because I'm the only brother for him. And my father, he cannot leave Gaza. for some reasons. So I left Gaza with my mom, and my father, he's still until now, he's still in Khan Yunis, he's still in Gaza.
The people also who got injured, if they're still there, all of them, maybe they're going to lose their lives, they're going to lose another part of their body, some of them, he lost one, and Alhamdulillah, he survived and he go out. They saved the other leg or other hand. Most of the cases like this.
And now if you ask them, if they open the border like before October 7, could you go, you want to go back to Gaza? Absolutely, all the answers, it's going to be yes. Because they know, even in the war, we was living together.
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Chapter 2: What challenges do Palestinians face in Gaza?
We was living together. next to each other. We evacuate together, we eat together, we cry together, we laugh together. So here outside, even if you are like, alhamdulillah, we are here in Qatar. Qatar, it's the best place for the Palestinian outside. And the Qatari government, they paid for education, for treatment for them. They give them like nice houses.
They keep them secure all the time, alhamdulillah. But even though, no one like the homeland, of course.
Yeah, everyone wants to, of course, return eventually. Yeah, that's been made endlessly difficult by the way that Israel and America has designed the situation. While the rest of the world is under the assumption that there's a ceasefire going on, do you want to talk about that a little bit as well?
Actually, it's a big lie. This ceasefire, they do it like just to take a picture and just to go and say like USA and Israel, it's finally they are like calling for the peace and they do the ceasefire. Since the ceasefire is starting, Each day we have an attack against Gaza. Each day we have people killed in Gaza. Each day we have people suffering from like closing the border.
They didn't open the border as the agreement says. We don't live like the same numbers of killed before the ceasefire but until now if they killed like one or two or ten they break the agreement and this is a big lie. Also they They didn't allow the people to return to their destroyed houses like Rafah. Rafah now, it's very empty.
And after the agreement, the agreement said the people, they should go to that area after the agreement. And until now, no one can go to Rafah there. All of that, two days ago, they killed like 30 persons in one day. Most of them, they are children, they are civilians. And another, each day, they...
like shoot the people they attack them by airstrike they they keep the even the rebuilding they didn't allow to the materials they didn't allow to the machines they didn't allow to people to rebuild their houses so people now still suffering in this cold weather More than 15 kids, they're dying from the cold.
We didn't hear about somebody who died from starvation, somebody who died from the cold.
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Chapter 3: How does Belal Khaled describe the experience of escaping Gaza?
But in Gaza, there is. And the people, they are Soviet. And the people, they are... There is kids who are freezing until the death. But nobody can enter like a blanket. No one... can like make him war, no one can save him because it's order from US, it's order from Israel and all of the world they are scared like to say no or to say why you do this for them.
Yeah. I do feel like the entire design of the so-called ceasefire, the fake ceasefire, was specifically so that they would respond not necessarily to the pushback that they were receiving from the resistance front, but instead to silence the protests that were taking place in the Western world because it had gotten to a point where it was completely untenable.
And you saw European leaders come out and offer... a tepid response, too little, too late. And it was definitely a day late and a dollar short. It was a response that was, you know, conditional recognition of statehood, you know, things that are objectively offensive on its face when you consider it. Having said that, that was enough for, I think, Trump to also recalculate how much
He was allowing Israel to continue punishing Gaza, to continue killing Palestinians, and that's the reason why they implemented the ceasefire, a fake ceasefire, so that we here in the West would stop paying attention to it and move on to other things.
Yeah, and unfortunately, they success a little bit to make the movement smaller than before because most of the people now, they say the Rafah border, it's opening yesterday. But unfortunately, five people, they go out from Gaza, just five injured people, they let them go out from Gaza. And 12 people, they let them go to enter to Gaza. And when you hear the woman who entered to Gaza,
They said like they arrest us and all of the women, they arrest them. They took them by the bus to an Israeli checkpoint. They sit for investigation there. They ask them a lot of questions. They took money from them. They took their phones. They didn't allow them to carry even the food. They didn't allow them to carry even like a blanket. They told them like just a small bag and just $600.
That's it. You cannot like enter more than $600. But if they save the money and they want to bring it to their families, their families, they don't have income.
like since that two or three years so this is yeah it's like everything it's engineering by US and Israel like to make to make Gaza empty but in another way by the increasing the number of who going back and the condition is when they open there is another condition no one left Gaza before October 7 have rights to return so this is a new Nakba It's like what happened in 1948.
The Palestinian people who live in the U.S., who live in Chile, in Europe, they didn't have the right to go back. And now we are like from the second Nakba when they said no one left Gaza before October 7th have the right to come back. So... This is a new plan for like making the people like pushing the people to go out of Gaza.
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Chapter 4: What is the current situation regarding the ceasefire in Gaza?
Yeah. But they didn't actually because they know the real thing if Palestine will be free. There is no Israel No, Israel is not exist before. Yeah.
What do you mean? No We don't want to buy beach No, no, no, no. What bitch? What? Don't play with me He's my love. I love him. Sorry. I'm very sorry Hardaway Hardaway, where are you from? I'm from Israel. Oh, you're from Israel? Hey, free Palestine, bitch! No, no, no, no, no free Palestine. What are you saying? What do you mean? What are you saying? Bro, what do you mean by free Palestine? Nah.
Where are you from? I'm from Palestine. Are you from Palestine? Free you! Free you! I know, free Palestine! Free you! Free your daddy! Free your mama! I'm watching your stream. Free you, man! Free you, dog!
He's so funny, but he's so brave.
And he's been doing this for years, too. That's why, I mean, I love him. This is like... I'm sure he cannot do this before October 7th. No, no, no, he's been doing this before October 7th. These are all from before October 7th. I don't even know what happened. I mean, this is a guy from Ohio, okay? Here, he's like 17 years old or 18 years old or something, but...
Somewhere along the somewhere along the way someone close to him must have like explained to him the situation. So he's been consistently Advocating for it like non-stop And he's he's had he's had run-ins with people Like over and over again. This is all before October 7 though Where he's just good. He loves Cristiano Ronaldo and he wants the free Palestine and Wow. Yeah.
And I mean, he is one of the largest, if not the largest content creator on the planet right now.
So it's pretty huge. Yes.
Yes. But it's just it's interesting because like it's it's like I never in my whole life would have expected, you know, people to people to engage in steadfast advocacy like that. Uh, for, for many, many years, but I just wanted to show you that, you know, just to, just to change the pace a little bit.
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Chapter 5: How does the international community perceive the conflict?
How, like, they are creating from what, when they, like, doing the birthday on their rebels. They want, like, to continue their lives. They are standing on even all of their, what they saw, like... This guy, he got engaged like three weeks before they destroyed his houses. And now he's celebrating with his fiance and his family on his birthday above his rubble. This picture, it was in 2019.
During like normal days, even the bombing, the airstrike, it was happening before October 7. Of course. But no one was hearing us before. the thing is like people start hearing about the what's happening in gaza after october 7 more before so this one is like one of my favorite photos that i took it and this is because i saw myself i saw the palestinian in this we are creating for life we are
We love to live in free places. We love to live like a normal and peaceful places, like anybody in the world. This is just like a simple right for the Palestinian. And the world, they don't want to give it to us.
That's why Palestinians always say our existence is resistance, where the occupation's goal is to obviously rid the land of the indigenous population of the Palestinians. So anyone that exists in spite of that, which requires tremendous bravery, when that shouldn't be the case at all, is basically causing a deep shame on the occupation in general.
Go down, I want to also talk about some stories that I took. This is the people who live in Al-Tumama complex, the one that you want to visit. So this is the injured people who live in Al-Tumama complex. More than thousands of families live there. Most of them who are... lost one of their parts. So this is Eid al-Fitr prayers. After Eid, you know, they're praying namaz at that moment.
So you can scroll also the photos and show like,
So this is actually one of the, like, from our perspective in the Western world, we look at numbers to understand the totality of the cruelty. But I think this also gets lost in those numbers because there's a lot of back and forth about what the number of total dead is.
And, you know, Israel has only recently actually recognized the Palestinian health ministry's numbers as an official confirmation, which, of course, means that the number the true death count is most likely infinitely higher than that.
And having said that, the consideration for the wounded is not even brought up in this conversation when this back and forth is happening on whether or not the Palestinian health ministry's numbers are accurate or not. But there's a deliberate wounding in the way that Israel engages in these sort of strikes or even with sniper fire as well. Right? That's like so many of the Palestinian youth.
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