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Healing + Human Potential

Transform Your Life with Simple Embodied Awakening Techniques | EP 61

05 Nov 2024

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Chapter 1: What does it mean to wake up spiritually?

60.514 - 65.579 Alyssa Nobriga

For different learning styles, maybe we could try a few glimpses, and then we'll do more of an IFS one.

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65.9 - 68.182 Loch Kelly

Let's do one where we're going to go from head to heart space.

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69.11 - 88.418 Alyssa Nobriga

Today I'm joined by a dear friend of mine, Ma Kelly, who's an award-winning author. He's a spiritual teacher and a fellow psychotherapist. And we're gonna unpack the different levels of awakening. He's got a beautiful framework, but also give you embodied inquiries so that you can experience what you are while you are actually diving into this episode.

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88.878 - 106.737 Alyssa Nobriga

He's going to unpack different levels of consciousness, sharing his map so that you don't get stuck in misunderstandings on the path of awakening, but also on the podcast, you're going to get some of his glimpses practices, which are embodied inquiries. So you can not just know it, but live it more fully from the episode. I hope that you enjoy it.

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107.938 - 112.447 Alyssa Nobriga

Locke, I am so happy to finally have you on the podcast. Welcome, welcome.

113.029 - 119.362 Loch Kelly

Thank you. This is so great to be with you here and to be with you and your audience and talk about whatever you want to talk about.

120.599 - 138.741 Alyssa Nobriga

This is like an advanced training and embodiment exploration of embodied awakening. And so just to start us off, because I know we're going to go conceptual and experiential, which I love. Talk to us because I think people have different definitions of what awakening means. Can we start with defining what awakening is so that we're on the same page?

139.417 - 164.966 Loch Kelly

Yes. And so when I talk about awakening similar to you, I talk about waking up and growing up. So in some ways, as Ken Wilber said, they go together. And that's one thing I've been with the waking up crowd and I've been with the growing up crowd doing a psychology degree and working inpatient, psychiatric and outpatient in Brooklyn mental health and then going off to India and

165.746 - 177.536 Loch Kelly

studying with some wonderful meditation teachers, and then just being enthralled, being just like, oh my God, this is real and this works and this makes my life so much better, but I need both.

Chapter 2: What are the stages of awakening?

Chapter 3: How can we embody awakening in our daily lives?

88.878 - 106.737 Alyssa Nobriga

He's going to unpack different levels of consciousness, sharing his map so that you don't get stuck in misunderstandings on the path of awakening, but also on the podcast, you're going to get some of his glimpses practices, which are embodied inquiries. So you can not just know it, but live it more fully from the episode. I hope that you enjoy it.

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107.938 - 112.447 Alyssa Nobriga

Locke, I am so happy to finally have you on the podcast. Welcome, welcome.

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113.029 - 119.362 Loch Kelly

Thank you. This is so great to be with you here and to be with you and your audience and talk about whatever you want to talk about.

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120.599 - 138.741 Alyssa Nobriga

This is like an advanced training and embodiment exploration of embodied awakening. And so just to start us off, because I know we're going to go conceptual and experiential, which I love. Talk to us because I think people have different definitions of what awakening means. Can we start with defining what awakening is so that we're on the same page?

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139.417 - 164.966 Loch Kelly

Yes. And so when I talk about awakening similar to you, I talk about waking up and growing up. So in some ways, as Ken Wilber said, they go together. And that's one thing I've been with the waking up crowd and I've been with the growing up crowd doing a psychology degree and working inpatient, psychiatric and outpatient in Brooklyn mental health and then going off to India and

165.746 - 177.536 Loch Kelly

studying with some wonderful meditation teachers, and then just being enthralled, being just like, oh my God, this is real and this works and this makes my life so much better, but I need both.

177.556 - 191.068 Alyssa Nobriga

Yeah, because you can be totally awake to your true nature and have a disintegrated life. And you could be having this like really like controlled and put together life and be unawake to the truth of who and what you are. So yes.

191.533 - 219.767 Loch Kelly

Yes. Yeah. And this is why I kind of do these stages because people get caught halfway or they get stuck in the initial awakening. They wake up from a kind of ego-centered feeling of who they are, but then they stop at either a pure awareness or no self or kind of like, oh, I'm free of that. And then this part takes over that's kind of like an adolescent, oh, everything's relative.

219.807 - 246.341 Loch Kelly

I can just do what I want. And We all know the stories of how many gurus and teachers who had initial awakenings. I've actually worked with them. Certainly, I've worked with a lot of people who were hurt by them and helped them with their trauma. But I've also, with about five different teachers who acted out physically, violently, emotionally, with money, with sex, with drugs.

Chapter 4: What are 'Glimpses' and how do they work?

Chapter 5: Why is understanding parts of ourselves important?

Chapter 6: What are common misconceptions about awakening?

Chapter 7: How can we integrate our repressed parts?

Chapter 8: What is the significance of unity mind and flow consciousness?

139.417 - 164.966 Loch Kelly

Yes. And so when I talk about awakening similar to you, I talk about waking up and growing up. So in some ways, as Ken Wilber said, they go together. And that's one thing I've been with the waking up crowd and I've been with the growing up crowd doing a psychology degree and working inpatient, psychiatric and outpatient in Brooklyn mental health and then going off to India and

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165.746 - 177.536 Loch Kelly

studying with some wonderful meditation teachers, and then just being enthralled, being just like, oh my God, this is real and this works and this makes my life so much better, but I need both.

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177.556 - 191.068 Alyssa Nobriga

Yeah, because you can be totally awake to your true nature and have a disintegrated life. And you could be having this like really like controlled and put together life and be unawake to the truth of who and what you are. So yes.

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191.533 - 219.767 Loch Kelly

Yes. Yeah. And this is why I kind of do these stages because people get caught halfway or they get stuck in the initial awakening. They wake up from a kind of ego-centered feeling of who they are, but then they stop at either a pure awareness or no self or kind of like, oh, I'm free of that. And then this part takes over that's kind of like an adolescent, oh, everything's relative.

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219.807 - 246.341 Loch Kelly

I can just do what I want. And We all know the stories of how many gurus and teachers who had initial awakenings. I've actually worked with them. Certainly, I've worked with a lot of people who were hurt by them and helped them with their trauma. But I've also, with about five different teachers who acted out physically, violently, emotionally, with money, with sex, with drugs.

247.122 - 269.442 Loch Kelly

And it's just like the curiosity of like, well, what happened? And so in some ways, I'll just say as we get back to our main topic here, in some ways, if you wake up, you have to continue to grow up. And if you're growing up, at some point you reach a level where you have a strong, healthy ego. You have to wake up even from that.

269.863 - 270.243 Alyssa Nobriga

That's right.

270.283 - 293.903 Loch Kelly

Because even a strong, healthy ego cannot bear a fully emotional human life. Because the emotions and the tenderness and the sensitivity and the healing of everyday trauma, which we all have, requires something greater than our small self. And so... waking up for me is a developmental stage.

294.763 - 322.195 Loch Kelly

So it's not just an esoteric thing that's for the Olympic athletes of meditation, or you have to go off, join a monastery or live in a cave. That my hope and what I've seen with thousands now of people is it's possible in the midst of any daily life to learn some tools. And if you're dedicated and consistent, It's just like a stage of development.

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