Transform Your Life with Simple Embodied Awakening Techniques | EP 61

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What does it mean to wake up spiritually?

Alyssa Nobriga 1:00
For different learning styles, maybe we could try a few glimpses, and then we'll do more of an IFS one.
Loch Kelly 1:05
Let's do one where we're going to go from head to heart space.
Alyssa Nobriga 1:09
Today I'm joined by a dear friend of mine, Ma Kelly, who's an award-winning author. He's a spiritual teacher and a fellow psychotherapist. And we're gonna unpack the different levels of awakening. He's got a beautiful framework, but also give you embodied inquiries so that you can experience what you are while you are actually diving into this episode. He's going to unpack different levels of consciousness, sharing his map so that you don't get stuck in misunderstandings on the path of awakening, but also on the podcast, you're going to get some of his glimpses practices, which are embodied inquiries. So you can not just know it, but live it more fully from the episode. I hope that you enjoy it.
Alyssa Nobriga 1:47
Locke, I am so happy to finally have you on the podcast. Welcome, welcome.
Loch Kelly 1:53
Thank you. This is so great to be with you here and to be with you and your audience and talk about whatever you want to talk about.
Alyssa Nobriga 2:00
This is like an advanced training and embodiment exploration of embodied awakening. And so just to start us off, because I know we're going to go conceptual and experiential, which I love. Talk to us because I think people have different definitions of what awakening means. Can we start with defining what awakening is so that we're on the same page?
Loch Kelly 2:19
Yes. And so when I talk about awakening similar to you, I talk about waking up and growing up. So in some ways, as Ken Wilber said, they go together. And that's one thing I've been with the waking up crowd and I've been with the growing up crowd doing a psychology degree and working inpatient, psychiatric and outpatient in Brooklyn mental health and then going off to India and studying with some wonderful meditation teachers, and then just being enthralled, being just like, oh my God, this is real and this works and this makes my life so much better, but I need both.
Alyssa Nobriga 2:57
Yeah, because you can be totally awake to your true nature and have a disintegrated life. And you could be having this like really like controlled and put together life and be unawake to the truth of who and what you are. So yes.
Loch Kelly 3:11
Yes. Yeah. And this is why I kind of do these stages because people get caught halfway or they get stuck in the initial awakening. They wake up from a kind of ego-centered feeling of who they are, but then they stop at either a pure awareness or no self or kind of like, oh, I'm free of that. And then this part takes over that's kind of like an adolescent, oh, everything's relative. I can just do what I want. And We all know the stories of how many gurus and teachers who had initial awakenings. I've actually worked with them. Certainly, I've worked with a lot of people who were hurt by them and helped them with their trauma. But I've also, with about five different teachers who acted out physically, violently, emotionally, with money, with sex, with drugs.

How can we embody awakening in our daily lives?

Loch Kelly 4:07
And it's just like the curiosity of like, well, what happened? And so in some ways, I'll just say as we get back to our main topic here, in some ways, if you wake up, you have to continue to grow up. And if you're growing up, at some point you reach a level where you have a strong, healthy ego. You have to wake up even from that.

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