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Hello Crawlers - A Dungeon Crawler Carl Podcast

Ep 51: This Inevitable Ruin | Ch 59 - 63

12 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main focus of Episode 51 of Dungeon Crawler Carl?

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Open hostilities. A mass... You can do it. A massive floppy stinky dick monster. Okay. The War Mage Rebellion, and Gods and Dragons. Hello, crawlers. Welcome back to episode 51. Guys, it has been a couple of weeks, like three weeks since we recorded.

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43.688 - 44.769 John Rubio

It's okay to let them know that.

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Yeah, we took a break. I had a trip, so we kind of front-loaded some episodes.

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50.697 - 54.102 John Rubio

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a while. I'm like, I gotta get used to this again.

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You know what? It was all this extra time that I was like, oh, I have plenty of time that I can actually catch up and write all my notes. So, of course, I wrote them all yesterday and this morning.

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Oh, you wrote them yesterday? Okay, yeah. And this morning. Because we didn't get them until today.

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But I am ready to get back into talking about this book because we still got quite a few episodes to go just to get to the end of it. Do we? Yeah, yeah. I was thinking, okay, we're at like, what, chapters 59 through 63 of episode 51. And 63, that should be near the end of the book. No, this thing goes into the 80s, into like the mid 80s.

97.875 - 100.018 John Rubio

Okay, we might need to step it up.

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Let's beat this up.

Chapter 2: How does the War Mage Rebellion impact the story's progression?

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So it doesn't feel like we should be entering into Book 8 like a lot of our listeners who only listen to the audiobooks. Also, like, with us, with at least you and I, Martin, equipped with the knowledge of the backstage of the Pineapple Cabaret. We'd like to keep that a little bit fresh.

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329.479 - 329.819 Martin Thomas

Sure.

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But we will visit it after Book 8, so sorry to disappoint.

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333.323 - 352.667 Grant Davis

And I've been through and read the backstage of the Pineapple Cabaret stuff, and while it does offer a lot of, like, enrichment to stuff that happens in Book 8, it's not necessary. It's really just a bunch of, like... Stuff that adds depth. Okay. But it isn't like integral to your understanding of book eight.

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Right. That's a sense I got from the comments too. I think people were just excited because it does add this extra texture to it. But I trust in Matt enough at this point that he knows how to thread that both ways so that book eight works great without it.

367.352 - 367.853 Grant Davis

Right. It does.

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Yeah. Few other notes. I confused Rishi with Nahit. Nahit. I thought so while we were talking.

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Yeah. But I was like, well, I'm not going to step in.

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Yeah. Brian McKay said, just a quick correction. The hit is the journalist Naga that got stabbed in the neck by Carl at CrawlerCon. Rishi is the different Naga that was part of the Blood Sultanate. He was there at the first Warlords board meeting. That's where we first saw him.

Chapter 3: What challenges does Carl face during the battle with the orcs?

495.704 - 495.984 Grant Davis

I know.

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Yeah. For me, it was Dean Kuntz.

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499.514 - 499.975 Grant Davis

Was it really?

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Yeah. I read a bunch of his trashy-ass books.

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502.5 - 502.76 John Rubio

Yeah.

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So many of them. It's the poor, shitty man. It's a skeet Ulrich to Johnny Depp. It's poor man Stephen King. It's just schlock.

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I read so many of them. I read and enjoyed a few of them. I'm not embarrassed to admit it. I like some shitty stuff, too.

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What was the family of freaks with like the incestuous twins and the dude who had four testicles inside of him?

528.866 - 530.328 John Rubio

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bad place or something?

Chapter 4: How does the introduction of Eris affect the chaos in the realm?

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Rubio is quick on the draw to help you guys troubleshoot stuff. And yeah, appreciate all the support. Homework assignment for next week is chapters 64 through 68, which will bring us to the conclusion of this section of the book. Fun. And now you guys ready to dive in? Let's do it. We're diving in. We're going to start with chapter 59. And I would just like to preface before we get into this.

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that this whole section is war.

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719.305 - 719.546 John Rubio

Yeah.

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This is a war book.

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720.949 - 736.149 John Rubio

Yeah. It's chaos. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just stuff going on plans happening, uh, succeeding, failing, uh, You don't get a lot of character stuff. Like, you got to really read into it because it's just things.

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I think that Matt does a great job with adding this frenetic energy with how he jumps from detail to detail to having the whole... ensemble cast of characters all operating in different paths just to show the wide scope of battle that's happening, the complexity of it. And you can do what we do and try to drill down on each of those bullet points about what's happening.

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Or you can just kind of be bathed in the absolute chaos and insanity of battle. That's what I had to do for the first read-through.

774.109 - 786.328 Grant Davis

Same. Because it was literally like... Words, words, words, words, words. And then I reached the end of the assignment and I went, what? And then I had to go back and start it again and try to slow my brain down and parse through it.

786.348 - 808.465 John Rubio

No, it's, it's, it's true. Uh, yeah. On this, on the second time through, I got more of like, all right, I really see what's going on. Mm-hmm. And on the third one, I could really focus on, okay, this, this, this. And then just driving over here, it's like, well, let's start back at chapter 63 just to, you know, refresh since that's the last one.

Chapter 5: What role do the War Mages play in the unfolding events?

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They have like plans on top of plans on top of plans. And then we get a layout of the field. Juicebox is being helped by Brittany to communicate back and forth with our princess posse on all their operations for team retribution. Florin is leading the front, attacking the orcs. Boomer is taking his squad and going after the Reavers. Donut is up in her tower targeting the Dream.

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Carl is going to be focused on the Madness. Tip is defending the FUPA. And Rosetta is the theater commander overseeing everything. Louie's the bomb runner. And Carl even says to what you're saying... Everything else beyond this is just too complex to explain. It's like the Iron Tangle. I mean, Matt knows.

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It's funny that he's able to make the commentary on the reaction to his previous books by being like, look, I know I messed, I made something wacky there.

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Also, when Carl says that, I thought, oh, thank God. Because I thought, man, if he's going to keep giving info dumps and going and drilling down into every detail of the plan, I'm going to lose the thread. I know I am. It's a really weird moment in this series to feel seen. Yeah.

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Yeah. We're all sweating. And he's like, don't worry, I'm not going to bog you down with that. Meanwhile, I have like 20 pages for this section.

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Well, it just means it'll come as things progress.

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Carl's worried about his friends, that he thinks people may die. This is the big battle moment. And he's noting in his cookbook that he's like, hey, I may fail, but I'm going to try my best. But man, it is really hard to focus. And I don't know if this is more of the creeping in of the demons in him, or just like, this is fucking chaos, everything that's going on.

1049.138 - 1073.56 John Rubio

Yeah, it's chaos. I mean, and it's chaos that he's, you know, he knows that chaos is the only way to win this thing. Because, I mean, if everything was equal and all these factions were going against each other... Uh, you know, the, uh, princess posse would dominate, but they have all the factions coming at them. Right. So they have to, you know, spread their forces and focus on so many things.

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Um, they have to be extremely strategic and hopefully smarter than the other.

Chapter 6: How do the characters navigate their alliances and conflicts?

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How does it have 18 fingers? I don't know. Donut has a... Oh, but also when she's... Yeah, it's written, fuck the cheese dicks. Yeah, it's not sticks. Yeah, and Carl's going like, it's sticks. But he had earlier said, shouldn't that be dicks and not sticks?

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Yeah, but now he knows that everyone else is always saying cheese sticks.

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1320.111 - 1320.551 John Rubio

Yeah.

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Or cheese sticks, so he's trying to correct her on it. Yeah. But it's just funny it's come back full circle to what his initial phrase was.

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1327.318 - 1334.667 Grant Davis

It's vernacular. Dictionaries aren't there to define language. It's... It's descriptive, not prescriptive.

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Yeah. Donut has a speaker system set up on all the towers that's connected to her headset. And we know that she has a bard skill. So now she can potentially just sing out. And her range is now, like, magnitudes increased because it's on all the towers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It seems like they're setting up that she could do some serious damage now that she's just connected all these towers with her bard skill.

1363.534 - 1379.295 John Rubio

Yeah, yeah, like Death Clock at the end of every cartoon. If she could sing. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know. Big caveat. She's got the spell and she's got an equalizer, so that should help. Oh, God. She could be all auto-tuned and reverbed, but...

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Carl and Imani both are like, please don't sing. But she's like, I'm a warlord. I get to do what I want. And it feels like, you know, she's starting to kind of buck this again. Like, hey man, I'm like, have I not earned the right to like be in charge of what I think and call the shots?

Chapter 7: What unexpected twists occur with the Gate of the Feral Gods?

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And they hop into the cockpit and they're both firing and protecting Louis in this next scene. It seems like they're pretty valuable.

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Again, they're both from the Gate of the Feral Gods at book. Right. They were both different parts of warring factions. One being the dirigible gnomes and the other one being, you know, the changelings on the surface. They're no, they're no strangers to war.

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1529.04 - 1538.514 John Rubio

Right. Yeah. Yeah. These are children of war. Right. But, uh. But yeah, Carl and his no child soldiers. And it's like, that horse has already left the barn.

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Yeah, child soldiers are kind of cool again, man.

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1543.302 - 1558.508 John Rubio

I mean, it works for Batman. But I thought we kind of settled this debate when they were like, well, Donut's here and she's younger than us. And they're trying to kill us. Why shouldn't we try to kill them? But I guess Carl still...

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Carl still, as we've seen through all the chapters in this section. Carl keeps Carling. Yeah, he's Carling, hardcore. He's a guy that everyone is like, Fucking stop, dude.

1569.918 - 1576.888 John Rubio

I mean, it's like everybody in his squad is calling him out on it. You're great, but you're also fucking annoying.

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The system messages. Here we go. Let chaos reign. And I was like, is let chaos reign from like that Antichrist movie with the Fox, right?

1589.605 - 1593.071 Grant Davis

I think that was just chaos rains. I think that fuck says that.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of Carl's evolving relationships with other characters?

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Yeah. And it smells for miles.

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1639.83 - 1645.096 Grant Davis

Which one am I running from first? The giant dick, probably. I'll run to the dragon.

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He and I will team up, hopefully. There's a flood of notifications. Ellie has already stepped through the first gate to release a god into the dream territory as she's heading into the revert territory. That's where Carl's going to skydive down and meet her to step through the next gate. Tran says that the dream is targeting the FUPA because a bunch of them have teleported like a mass army there.

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We learned that there's this really, really difficult spell that can mass teleport a group. A battalion. Yeah, a whole battalion to a location. But he's like, we didn't think other people would do it because it takes 30 hours of consistent chanting by these mages in order to do it. And we're doing it twice. This is what Carl says. I'm like, okay.

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1694.81 - 1705.725 John Rubio

Yeah. Of course you are. Well, I realized I lost track of time because I was like, when did they have 30 hours? I didn't know this had been going on that long. But I guess they had a whole week where they couldn't do anything. So, yeah.

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Ooh, you know what? Here's a question for you. How many days in to the whole dungeon do you think we are?

1714.312 - 1715.876 John Rubio

You mean besides the ones you wrote down?

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Oh, did you read it already? Yeah. You do read the notes. Did you read it already? No. How many days do you think we are in? I don't know. You had to guess? 81 days. Wow. Yeah. It feels like just with us reading this, it's like years. Oh, no.

1735.897 - 1737.4 Martin Thomas

It's not even three months so far.

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