Justin Hawkins Loses It With Me For Asking This
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What surprising personal background does Justin Hawkins reveal early in the interview?
What's the worst thing you've done? I'm not going to sit here and talk to you about it. I'm quite an open book. No, you're a pamphlet. This is the thing. You don't have a rock bottom to discuss. Your role here is to offer salacious tidbits to try and eek some out of me. Is that what you think I'm doing? Of course it is. I think I'm just having a nice conversation. That's breadcrumbing me so that you can manipulate me into saying something.
Do you think some people might not know the song? Can I quickly hum it? Yeah, you should hum it, I think.
This
was a huge hit.
The darkness.
The darkness. When you write the best rock song of the millennium, the only way is down. At one point he said that I should be killed and replaced with a proper musician.
People said your drug
stuff ended the band. I was f***ing up those meetings by turning up in the right state, asking for c*** from the producers. No, from the people who ran the record companies. I remember bits of my nose falling out. Something bad happened. Something really bad. So see if you can guess if I'm Jewish or not. Oh.
Well, from how you drink the coffee. There are clues everywhere. Do you think? Okay, well, the tattoos are... Can we conclude? Let's start with this. Let's start with you saying, see if you can guess if I'm Jewish. So the tattoos would be... I suppose
what I'm asking you is that indoctrination and that period of time when you were made aware that you were Jewish, you were coerced into doing all of the ceremonies and speaking the Hebrew and all that sort of stuff. Do you think you can spot it on
somebody else? No. No, because a lot of Jews are not religious, myself included. I suppose you're right. You could go, but you still went through that initiation as a young person. So I could go like, hey, what is... And you would know. To know you're not a religious Jew, the tattoos.
Jews
can't have tattoos because they're not allowed to be buried in a Jewish cemetery. But otherwise, yeah, you could easily be. You've got dark sort of hair and eyes. So are you suggesting that it's a race thing rather than a religion thing? I think as much, yeah. I think, well, for me it is, because I'm an atheist, but I'd still be rounded up by Hitler. But then I'm letting him define it.
Okay.
I see the problem with that.
Yeah, there is a bit of an issue with that.
Yeah. It lets him define what I am. I just see myself as a kind of white guy.
Yeah.
But then a lot of people would say I'm not, particularly on the farm. So go on then, what's your guess? That if you are or not, I think because you've said it, I think you... Although the questions you've asked me, maybe you're not. I think you're not. Wrong. You are Jewish? Yeah. Oh, man, it's a club. It's an exclusive
club.
And
this is proof we're all just part of an exclusive club. Yeah, but it's not a club that I necessarily want to be part of or even knew that I was part of until perhaps two years ago. You're
kidding. Because it's maternally,
isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, so maternally, my brother and I are Jewish, yeah.
Whoa. And loads of people find that Christopher Hitchens found
out. Imagine having all those tattoos and then finding that out and realising that, I really don't belong. Well, you can't be buried now in a Jewish
cemetery.
Well, what's going to happen? I'm just going to rot on the surface of the graveyard. What will I do?
Put me in a tree or something? You'd have to go to a non-Jewish cemetery. I don't want to do that. I'm Jewish. I don't want to go to any cemetery. I don't want to ever die. I hate dying. Why? That's going to be the best bit. Do you think? Yeah.
The promised land.
I mean, because you
haven't got any tattoos.
Do you believe in the promised land?
What is the promised land? What's the idea of it?
I don't know. So what are we supposed to believe in? I think the promised land might actually be Israel. So when you die, you go to Israel? I think you just go to heaven or something. I don't even know if it's a Jewish heaven. Well, so what's the point of it
then? What
are we trying to achieve? I want
to know how you found out you were Jewish.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What surprising personal background does Justin Hawkins reveal early in the interview?
0:00–8:16
2
How does Justin discover and discuss his Jewish heritage and family history?
8:16–18:33
3
What does Justin think about the concept of the promised land and its meaning?
18:33–26:49
4
How did cocaine influence The Darkness' rise to fame and its later challenges?
26:49–37:06
5
What was the pivotal Glastonbury moment that defined The Darkness' career?
37:06–46:05
6
Does Justin believe modern rock stars should be more aggressive or mean‑spirited?
46:05–55:30
7
What new releases, tours, and projects is Justin planning for The Darkness?
55:30–1:04:45
8
What final reflections does Justin share about his career, life, and future?
1:04:45–1:13:09
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