Tipped as one of the longshots and now England manager, Thomas Tuchel is the polarising German football coach known for his brilliance, fanaticism, and sometimes cruelty. Simon and Mehreen cover the fascinating and complex world of Tuchel, whose career is defined by never-ending cycles of success and self-destruction. They chronicle his rollercoaster career—from early days in Germany under the shadow of Jürgen Klopp, to rises and falls at Paris St Germain, Chelsea, and Bayern Munich. Discover how the enigmatic Tuchel’s unconventional training methods, tactical innovation towards coaching, and workaholic lifestyle lead him to become such a dividing and impressive figure of today’s football. Time stamps: 00:30 - Introduction to Thomas Tuchel 01:03 - His unique lifestyle and beliefs 01:41 - The cycle: Success and self-destruction 02:04 - Potential candidacy for the England national team 03:21 - Early career and influences 05:33 - Playing career and transition to coaching 07:24 - Influence of Ralf Rangnick 09:09 - Innovative coaching methods and rise at Mainz 23:23 - Sabbatical and learning from other sports 30:14 - Terrorist attack on Dortmund's team bus 32.20 - Strained relationship with Dortmund's management 33:56 - Move to Paris Saint-Germain 34:50 - Approach to managing star players at Paris Saint Germain 36:24 - Champions League final and abrupt departure from Paris Saint Germain 38:42 - Arrival at Chelsea and immediate impact 43:26 - Winning the Champions League with Chelsea 50:26 - Personal challenges and departure from Chelsea 53:36 - Brief tenure at Bayern Munich 55:40 - Speculation on becoming England manager Join the Heroes and Humans Supporters Club! Are you a fan of Heroes and Humans and can’t wait for the next episode? Why not become part of our exclusive community and get even closer to the action? By joining our official H&H Supporters Club on Patreon, you’ll unlock access to behind-the-scenes sneak peeks, bonus content, and special Q&A sessions with your hosts, Mehreen and Simon. Whether you're looking for deeper insights into football’s biggest personalities or just can’t wait for the next episode, we’ve got something for you. Don’t miss out! Support us and get more from your favourite podcast. Join us today at patreon.com/heroesandhumans Follow @heroesandhumans everywhere. Instagram TikTok Facebook X Visit our website for news & updates heroesandhumans.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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