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Hidden Brain

Passion vs. Paycheck

22 Sep 2025

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0.031 - 25.855 Shankar Vedantam

Hey there, Shankar here. We're dropping this episode on September 22nd, 2025. That's 10 years to the day since we first launched Hidden Brain into the world. Welcome to the first episode of the Hidden Brain Podcast. I'm Shankar Vedantam. A lot has changed since we started this podcast. But for us, one thing remains steadfast. Week in and week out, we love making this show for you.

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26.756 - 52.864 Shankar Vedantam

It's been our calling. So today, we mark this anniversary with an episode about just that. Callings, and how finding one can change our lives. If you've been listening to Hidden Brain for many years, please come to my live tour. I'll be in Baltimore on October 11th, in Washington DC on October 12th, and in Los Angeles on November 22nd. More dates are coming in 2026.

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53.004 - 76.974 Shankar Vedantam

I'll be sharing seven key insights from the first decade of the show. For more information and tickets, go to hiddenbrain.org slash tour. Again, that's hiddenbrain.org slash tour. Hope to see you there. And here's today's show. This is Hidden Brain. I'm Shankar Vedantam.

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79.599 - 101.438 Shankar Vedantam

In 2005, an intense man with a receding hairline and glasses stood before thousands of young graduates in Palo Alto, California. He wore dark robes with a hood of cardinal red. Truth be told, he joked, I never graduated from college, and this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation.

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103.862 - 122.309 Shankar Vedantam

The speech that Steve Jobs gave at Stanford University's commencement that year didn't just transfix his audience. It would transfix countless other audiences in the years to come. His central message was simple. As he put it, your time is limited. Don't waste it living someone else's life.

122.79 - 131.679 Steve Jobs

I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for work as it is for your lovers.

133.221 - 140.248 Shankar Vedantam

Finding a vocation, the inventor and entrepreneur said, was no less important than finding a soulmate.

140.38 - 148.483 Steve Jobs

As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on.

150.488 - 162.906 Shankar Vedantam

And what if you hadn't found something you loved? What if the work you did paid the bills but didn't complete you? The iconoclastic leader of Apple Inc. had very definite advice for the recent graduates.

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