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Hidden Brain

Wellness 2.0: Rising to the Occasion

06 Jan 2025

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0.329 - 26.174 Shankar Vedantam

This is Hidden Brain. I'm Shankar Vedant. There's an old saying attributed to Benjamin Franklin. Nothing is certain in life except for death and taxes. But death and taxes are not the only guarantees. If we live long enough, all of us will experience great setbacks, crises that seem insurmountable, challenges that seem far bigger than we are.

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28.188 - 50.165 Shankar Vedantam

When we see others go through natural disasters or terrible illnesses, or the emotional upheavals that come from child custody battles or losing a livelihood, we think, how terrible for them. I'm so glad this didn't happen to me. But what we fail to see in these moments is that all of us are going to experience our own versions of these emergencies and tragedies.

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51.246 - 75.873 Shankar Vedantam

Having to deal with crises is an occupational hazard of being alive. What do we do in such moments? How do our minds respond when faced with catastrophe? And can we better prepare ourselves for their inevitable arrival? Today on the show and in a companion piece on Hidden Brain Plus, we examine the psychology of battling a crisis. It's part of our series Wellness 2.0.

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78.115 - 115.182 Shankar Vedantam

What happens in our minds when we face danger and what we can learn from those who prove steadfast in such moments? Techniques and strategies for responding better when life throws us crises, curveballs, and catastrophes. This week on Hidden Brain. We are all called upon from time to time to do hard and sometimes seemingly impossible things. Do we rise to the occasion or do we fall short?

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116.102 - 131.065 Shankar Vedantam

At Columbia University, psychologist Adam Galinsky has studied the science of decision-making and leadership, what it takes to rise to the occasion and what happens in our minds when we don't. Adam Galinsky, welcome to Hidden Brain. Thank you so much.

132.549 - 151.334 Shankar Vedantam

Adam, in January 2012, an Italian cruise ship carrying over 3,000 passengers and 1,000 crew members was on a seven-day voyage in the Mediterranean when it began to veer close to shore. It was unclear why this was happening, but eventually the ship, which was named the Costa Concordia, hit a reef. How deep was the reef and what happened to the ship, Adam?

152.014 - 166.159 Adam Galinsky

It was almost 30 feet below the surface, so the captain, Francesco Schettino, couldn't see it, but it just tore a gigantic hole in the bottom of the ship, basically rendering the ship inoperable.

167.02 - 173.282 Shankar Vedantam

I'm assuming that water must have flooded the generators and engines. The ship must have come to a standstill almost right away.

173.914 - 184.218 Adam Galinsky

Absolutely. It had a complete loss of power. There was a blackout that was involved. And basically, at that moment in time, this was essentially a shipwreck.

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