Kristen and Jolenta chat with By the Book’s resident historian and fairy Godmother Trysh Travis. Professor Travis answers listener questions about the history of self-help and race, why Marie Kondo is so popular, and shares some of her favorite self- help books. Trysh Travis is a cultural and literary historian in the Center for Women's Studies at the University of Florida If you want more of Professor Travis, check out her books: The Language of the Heart: A Cultural History of the Recovery Movement from Alcoholics Anonymous to Oprah Winfrey Re-Thinking Therapeutic Culture For further reading on the history of the self-help industry, Professor Travis recommends: Oracle at the Supermarket, by Steven Starker Self Help, Inc., by Micki McGee Bright-sided, by Barbara Ehrenreich Kristen and Jolenta's new book How to be Fine is available now. You can subscribe to Jolenta and Kristen's new show, We Love You (And So Can You) on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. We love hearing from you! CALL us at 302-49B-OOKS. Email us at [email protected], or tweet us @jolentag, @kristenmeinzer, or @bythebookpod. And if you haven't already, please join our By The Book Facebook community! https://www.facebook.com/groups/116407428966900/?source_id=475465442806687 To get By the Book merch, head over to PodSwag.com: https://www.podswag.com/collections/by-the-book This episode is brought to you by Better Help, online counseling that is accessible, affordable and convenient. Go to betterhelp.com/btb to get 10% off your first month. Rothy’s, everyday shoes for life on the go. Head to Rothys.com/btb to check out the styles. Dave’s Killer Bread, America’s #1 organic bread. Visit DavesKillerBread.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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