Sam Bagshaw: 'My stammer isn't stopping me'

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John Robins 0:00
Hello everyone, it's John here, just letting you know that I have written a book. It's called Thirst, 12 Drinks That Changed My Life, and it's out now. In many episodes of How Do You Cope, you'll have heard me talk about my relationship with alcohol, and in writing Thirst, I wanted to explore what alcohol means. Why did it mean more to me than other people? Why did it mean some things felt better, and why did it mean so many things went wrong? I also talk about lots of other things you'll have heard me and my guests discuss on How Do You Cope? Meditation, physical pain, gratitude, trauma, and therapy. There's even a chapter about my bum and its relationship with Buddhism. So if that piques your interest, Thirst is out now, and the audiobook, read by me, is available wherever you get audiobooks from.
John Robins 0:54
Hello and welcome to How Do You Cope with me, John Robbins. This is the show where I speak to fascinating guests about the hardships they've overcome and the coping mechanisms that allow them to do so. Today's guest is Sam Bagshaw. Sam is a social media content creator whose videos centre on his life with a stammer. His experiences of going out and doing everyday things such as ordering food in restaurants have had millions of views. And you can follow him on TikTok, at Stammer Experiences, and on Instagram, at Sam underscore Bagshaw underscore. Sam Stammer started when he was four. He underwent speech and language therapy, but didn't find it to be hugely useful. In 2017, he went to the Maguire program, an intense stammering course, which teaches breathing techniques and exercises.
John Robins 1:42
It also encourages people to speak to strangers on the street. And finding this helped him, Sam continued to do this after the course had finished. I came across Sam's videos on Instagram and immediately wanted to get him on the podcast to find out more about his experiences of living with a stammer before deciding to share it with the world as part of his treatment. Last year, Sam took part in the Brighton Marathon, raising funds for UK charity Action for Stammering Children. Before we get started, don't forget that you can now watch every new episode of How Do You Cope on YouTube. Just search for How Do You Cope Pod. And you can, of course, listen to all episodes wherever you get your podcasts. And whether you're watching or listening, please do hit subscribe so you don't miss any future episodes.
John Robins 2:26
For more information or to get in touch, head to howdyocopepod.com. But for now, here's my conversation with Sam Bagshaw. I do hope you enjoy it.
John Robins 2:42
Well, it's a very warm welcome to How Do You Cope to Sam Bagshaw. Hey, Sam, how are you doing?
Sam Bagshaw 2:49
Yeah, I'm doing good, thanks. I really appreciate having me on.
John Robins 2:51
Oh, no worries. I was just saying to you when you came in, I feel quite starstruck because I watch so many of your Instagram videos that you're very, you're like high on my morning menu of Instagram clips when I turn on. And like, I just discovered your account naturally through people sharing it online. And I'm sure you're very used to sharing clips of you interacting with people and practicing talking. But something like, you know, this could be up to an hour long, this podcast. It's a sort of different beast. We've got cameras here. So my first question is sort of how are you feeling about something that isn't just you holding a camera in front of you?
Sam Bagshaw 3:35
Well, I do feel like I've got a lot more better with it. The more and more experiences I get, the more... I'm more used to I'm getting it and I do try and control my nerves and not think about anything and just relax and just pretend we're just having a chat and that's it really so. Well you don't have to pretend.
John Robins 4:06
So what do you if you feel yourself getting nervous about sort of speaking in public or recording something like this what sort of techniques do you have or have you learnt to sort of chill yourself out?
Sam Bagshaw 4:20
Well um I do like to do a lot like meditating and I do try and relax with the breathing as well. Yeah.
John Robins 4:35
So when you say relax with breathing, what do you mean?

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