E286: How LPs Can Actually Find Alpha in Venture
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Abe, before today's podcast, I looked up when our first podcast was. It was actually episode four. It was the fourth episode. Now this is going to be roughly 250, so it's good to have you back on.
Unbelievable. Like, just congratulations on the success. Like, that's... Absolutely amazing. I think since the last time we talked, I've also had two kids since the last time we chatted. So it's only been two years. A lot of stuff has been going on since the last time we spoke. So congratulations, I guess, to all of us for the accomplishments. It's amazing seeing the amount of traction you've gotten. Like, yeah, super cool. And it's such a privilege to be invited back. Yeah, that's really neat.
You've been at AngelList for six and a half years. You started out as head of data science. Today, you're a consulting researcher. You've had access to some of the most interesting data in, I think, in the entire venture capital ecosystem. What's one thing that you've changed your thinking on in the last year?
The big perspective that I had, and I think this is pretty common for people who get into the venture capital ecosystem from starting a startup. A sense, you know, you start a company, you go out to raise money, you're introduced to a bunch of VCs, and it kind of hits you, you're like... What is this? Like, who are these people? What are their jobs? Why do they behave the way that they behave? Why do they never say no? Why do they constantly talk about circling back? You know, cultural awakening. And I think one of the reasons that I was so keen to join AngelList when I had the opportunity was was, you know, given the size of the data that I'm able to work with was a sense of, look, can I try to rationalize the behavior of venture capitalists?
Can I try to like say, hey, you know, existing culture is weird and broken and is wrong. And here's what the data says about the correct way to behave. Just things that would be shocking to me to hear six and a half years ago is that actually venture capitalists are doing a pretty good job. From the data, actually, a considerable amount of respect for them and for the work that they do. And I took the job with the idea of of rationalizing the asset class. I think what's actually happening is that the data has sort of radicalized me.
What do you mean that you sought to rationalize and you were radicalized and unpack some of the insights that you've been able to glean over six and a half years and tens of thousands of startup data sets?
It's probably useful to just talk about, you know, the really... unbelievable data that we have access to from AngelList, which is tens of thousands of very, very early stage financings, and then the resulting share price trajectories of those companies over time. What's really unique about that data set is really twofold. So one is you don't have the bias, the kind of survivorship bias that comes from looking at the behavior of seed stage investments when you look them up on PitchBook or other external data sources, right? A huge fraction of seed stage companies are founded, make very, very little noise in the world, and then die without kind of telling anybody. And those companies don't end up in external data sources in a way that you need to adequately assess the asset class.
So having actual data on what is happening to the breadth of CCH companies, both winners and losers, is very interesting. The second real data strength that AngelList has is the price per share. So you do not need to guess at dilution.
What unique AngelList dataset does Abe use to study seed investing and dilution?
You don't need to work based on headline valuations. And that tends to result in actually very radical, like very different interpretations of the quality of the asset class strictly as a function of the assumptions that are made.
Just to put a little bit color to what you're saying is that the breakout companies, the one that look on paper like they're 100x plus, sometimes are actually undervalued versus the middling companies are actually overvalued. What does that mean? One example, I was in Anthropic.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–3:34
2
What unique AngelList dataset does Abe use to study seed investing and dilution?
3:34–11:32
3
How do price-per-share and survivorship bias change interpretations of VC returns?
11:32–30:55
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How does the power-law alpha parameter differ between seed, Series A, and later-stage investing?
30:55–1:03:02
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