Does it Take a Twisted Mind to Write Twisted Stories? | from Better In Person
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What is the premise of Better in Person and how does Harlan Coben introduce himself?
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Hey there. I want to share an episode today of a show that I think you're gonna really enjoy. It's from the mind of Steven Dubner, who you probably know as the host of Freakonomics Radio. And Steven is trying something new. It's a video talk show called Better in Person. If Freeconomics Radio is about how things work, Better in Person is about how people work. Every episode, Steven invites really smart, accomplished, fascinating people into his living room, literally, to talk about their work, their drive, and the things that light them up. This episode that we're about to share with you is with the best-selling author Harlan Coben. Coben has a knack for turning his thrillers into hit Netflix series.
And as you will hear in this conversation, that comes with a lot of hard work. Steven produced this special audio version of Better in Person so you can listen, but if you'd like to watch the show, just check out the Freakonomics YouTube channel. Hope you like it.
I always love this question if you weren't a writer, what would you be? And one of my friends says, A US senator, I'm like, Oh please. I'd be a duvet cover, dude. I got like no other marketable skills.
This is Better in Person with Steven Dubner and Harlan Coban.
If you rate books for a living, even if they turn out to be very successful, which is unlikely, it's even more unlikely that you will have enough leverage to turn your own books into films and TV shows. But Harlan Coben has done that. He has produced 12 series on Netflix, his books have sold 90 million copies, and he still seems to be at the peak of his powers. You know, I've known you a little bit bit for a while and I I I like you a great deal. Oh, yeah. I mean I'm just saying. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Can you ready to turn the cameras off for a minute? I mean what? Feels very intimate here.
Um but Wow, I love it a book. Um, I'm a little bit edgy, and I'm edgy because I've been reading a lot of Harlan Coben. Uh-oh. Wow. Like, you got your hooks in me because like there are all these characters where there's they're they're placid on the surface, but very turbulent inside, where you think something is one thing and it turns out to be another, where there's some fear, unknown quantity lurking. Deep. I'm not gonna say anxiety. I don't feel bad. I just feel, like I said, on edge. Yeah. But I I wanna know how you feel about making people feel that way.
It's interesting. That's that's a different response than I use. I usually, you know, because the at the end usually the world comes back together.
It does, to me. And it
may not be it may not be At the end
of each book we're saying. Yes,
and I may not have happy endings. In fact, quite frequently I like to have devastating endings. My favorite endings usually I see have their runaway. Runaway is one of my most devastating endings. Um, but the world sort of put back together. And I think of it more as escapism, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. So that's I'm I'm I'm actually kind of happy about that. I do want things to linger in your head. It sounds so corny, but I want still want this to be the book that you.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the premise of Better in Person and how does Harlan Coben introduce himself?
0:00–4:54
2
How did Harlan Coben break into publishing and achieve his first breakout success?
4:54–8:03
3
What writing habits and daily routines does Coben use to stay productive?
8:03–12:15
4
How does Coben handle writer’s block, imposter syndrome, and self‑doubt?
12:15–16:45
5
What role did David Foster Wallace and college experiences play in shaping Coben’s craft?
16:45–21:01
6
How does Coben approach adapting his novels for Netflix and TV series?
21:01–25:22
7
What creative games and exercises (like the grab‑bag test) does Coben use to generate ideas?
25:22–30:37
8
What personal reflections does Coben share about grief, family, and the future of his writing?
30:37–45:41
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