Mae Muller is a queen, icon and a legend and I won't hear anyone say differently. At 25, she is one of the hottest new talents in music. She was Great Britain's 2023 Eurovision entry with her own track, I Wrote A Song, and sure she came second last, but that didn't dim her shine for one single second. Her debut album, Sorry I'm Late, is released in September.She joins me to chat about failing to win Eurovision and the pressure she felt in the run-up to the competition; failing in school exams and failling to recognise toxic relationships in her teens. She is funny, feisty, smart and wholly without pretension and I adored this conversation with her. Listen now to feel more joyful about life.--Pre-order Mae's debut studio album, I'm Sorry I'm Late, here.--How To Fail With Elizabeth Day is hosted and produced by Elizabeth Day. To contact us, email [email protected] Media:Elizabeth Day @elizabdayHow To Fail @howtofailpodMae Muller @maemuller Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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