Blitzscaling's Chris Yeh on Infinite Learning, Staying Cool, and Building Strategic Networks

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What is infinite learning and why does Chris Yeh call it essential for staying relevant?

Kelli Dragovich 0:03
For today's Essential Heretics 101 feature, Chris Ye discusses infinite learning, staying relevant, blitz scaling, adaptability, assessing founders through shared experiences, and negotiating equity by prioritizing process over numbers. All right. Hi everyone. Welcome to another episode here of HR Heretics. I am so happy to have Chris Ye here. I've been a fan for probably like 20 years. And Seen you speak a bunch of times. I don't even know how to talk about your background because it's literally spans author, venture partner, mentor. Academic instructor, co-founder, and board member. And so humbled to have you on, Chris. And it's so good to see you again.
Nolan Church 0:42
So, Chris, the thing that strikes me about you is you just have this palpable energy. Where does that come from? And how does somebody who has been around the block as many times as you have been around still have that much juice?
Chris Yeh 0:57
So I will give it credit to a couple of things. The first baseline level is as you know, there is this notion of a set point for happiness that people have. And so mine is jammed way up. And so I'm just generically one of the happiest, most optimistic people you're gonna meet. And that helps drive the energy. The second thing I would say is that I have a long history of public speaking and performance. I went To Stanford as an undergraduate, I studied product design engineering and creative writing, but also very critically, I studied drama and improvisational acting. I studied public speaking and then taught public speaking for the engineering school. I studied peer counseling and then was a peer counselor for years.
Chris Yeh 1:39
And of course, I was part of an improv comedy troupe for a number of years as well. The audience is going to have a good time if the speaker is having a good time. time and the audience is going to feel energetic if the speaker is energetic. If you've ever seen venture capitalists speak on stage, the vast majority are the most boring people imaginable. And I'm like, no, like I love entrepreneurs.

How does Chris Yeh generate his high‑energy presence on stage and in conversations?

Chris Yeh 1:58
They're incredible. When I see an entrepreneur and I think that they've got it, I'm like, wow, I got to spend more time with this person. I mean, show you're excited. Don't just
Nolan Church 2:06
say you're excited. So Chris, I watched your TED talk around infinite learning. And I love this quote from you. You said, we often praise people for learning new things, but I'm going to suggest that we should also praise them for unlearning old things. Unlearning, I find, is a skill that most people are not good at. Why do you think that's
Chris Yeh 2:32
the case? Well, it's very simple. We as human beings don't like uncertainty. I mean, I can remember. Think back to what happens on the first day of school. Like, oh my God, I'm so nervous. What's gonna happen? And then by the end of high school, you're like, I got this dialed in. I know what's going on. And we like that feeling of being a confident senior, not a scared freshman. But the fact is that as the world changes around us, it doesn't matter how confident we feel. We really are that scared freshman. We really do have to learn something new.
Kelli Dragovich 3:05
Chris, you you've been doing all of these wonderful things since the mid-90s, and now we're 2025, pretty much. How how have you stayed relevant?
Chris Yeh 3:15
So, what do I do to stay relevant? There are a couple of things. The first, the most important thing, is continue to develop friendships and relationships with people who are young or young at heart. And I jokingly say, Oh, you know, my young friends are now old. It's time to get a new set of young friends. But it's literally true. And being an instructor helps with that, right?

Why does Yeh say unlearning is as important as learning, and how can you practice it?

Chris Yeh 3:37
Having a college like Stanford, bring a supply of young people to me is always a very a useful thing to have happen. I try to see what they're doing. And so part of it is just tapping into things that are happening that are new. And part of that for me also means keeping track, and this sounds crazy, but keeping track of popular culture. Right. So I try to keep track of popular culture, not because it's necessarily like super relevant to the things I do, but because it's relevant to understanding what people are thinking about and what matters to them.

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