I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin
From running the streets to begging for death: Gaz Wright Pt. 1
06 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The public has had a long-held fascination with detectives. Detectives see a side of life the average person is never exposed to. I spent 34 years as a cop. For 25 of those years, I was catching killers. That's what I did for a living. I was a homicide detective. I'm no longer just interviewing bad guys. Instead, I'm taking the public into the world in which I operated.
The guests I talk to each week have amazing stories from all sides of the law. The interviews are raw and honest, just like the people I talk to. Some of the content and language might be confronting. That's because no one who comes into contact with crime is left unchanged. Join me now as I take you into this world. The criminal underworld is a grubby place.
It welcomes anyone willing to make bad choices. And Gaz Wright made plenty of them. For decades, Gaz lived in a world where violence was a currency and where survival meant being the most dangerous person in the room. Gaz's criminal resume runs deep. Assaults, drug dealing, kidnappings, even allegations of murder.
Then the karma he accumulated finally caught up with him in the most brutal way possible. Still, Gaz found a way forward. This is an ugly story about crime and its consequences, and perhaps a content warning is appropriate given the subject matter. Gary, Gaz Wright, welcome to Eye Catch Killers. Gary, Gary Jubilant. Thank you. Now, I've heard of you as Gaz Wright, Gary Wright.
What do you prefer being referred to as? Gaz. Gaz, okay.
Yeah, I was usually in trouble when people called me Gary. It's a little formal.
What about yourself? Do you get Gaz or Gary? Gary when you're in the shit. Yeah. And it's a bit of a funny name now, Gary, isn't it? Yeah. Fucking Gary. Yeah. Have you got one or two Rs? One R. Oh, two. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. Well, we'll get over being Gary's, but you can be Gaz for the episode. Thank you.
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Chapter 2: What led Gaz Wright to a life of crime?
Now, Gaz, in prepping for the podcast, and I've obviously heard about you and know about you, and a few mutual friends have steered me in your direction. Danny, Glenn, Glenn Fisher, Danny Shannon, Jeffrey Morgan, all close friends of mine. Yeah, well, I know them well too, and they all speak highly of you.
They're doing good things in the community as well.
I love stories of redemption and they're classics for it. But also giving people an understanding of what the world of crime is like because I think people are fascinated by true crime. They are. But it's almost looking at the surface of it and glorifying it. You can see the cool things that happen in the crime.
But speaking to people like you, I think it allows people to understand, well, you know, it can be a bit messy in the world of crime.
Oh, 100%.
I know part of your platform now is trying to help people and steer them away from it. And I think it's an important message.
And we're doing a good job too. Yeah. Definitely doing a good job at pushing a positive message, as we would say, and helping others, you know, which is what it's all about. Because let's be honest, you know, you've got to start somewhere. But some people get online and they say, oh, I've been here and I've done that. Yep. And you shouldn't do it. Yeah.
Like that's great if people are going to listen, but what else have you got to offer? And, you know, and I think people like me, Danny ā Glenn and Morgz, we're really getting our hands dirty in the community in a positive way, which I think is great.
And demonstrating that it's possible and can be done for a time. I've also ā you've mentioned karma a lot in interviews that you've done or when you're speaking to people. Do you believe in karma? Has karma come back to bite you in ways? It got me a beauty. Yeah?
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Chapter 3: How did Gaz's criminal activities escalate over time?
I'm destroying myself. So I understand the forgiveness is for bringing peace to yourself. Yeah, 100%. We're going to talk about your life, but most importantly, talk about what you're doing and the direction your life is heading in now and the good positive stuff that you're doing.
I just want to give people a sense, before we talk about your childhood, there was one episode in your life that was, I think, significant, but it gives people an understanding of how low your life was. Yeah. I've called it in my notes suicide by cop. Yes, yes.
You know the incident I'm talking about, and we don't have to put it in context what led up to it or what occurred after it, but just tell us about that incident because I think people will get a sense of how dark the world can be for people.
So I'd come home from prison. I'll try and skim over, like you said before, in the after. I come home from prison with this mindset of I wanted to do the right thing. I'd had enough. Had enough of that life. I was moving into my mid-30s and by that stage, I was an active criminal. Served just over seven years prison for obviously crimes that I've been caught for.
Beat a really big case I set in front of the courts. I would have been lucky to get 15 if I was found guilty. Beat that. Had to serve a little time on a lesser charge. Come home and was like, well, I'm not doing this anymore. You know, what a shit career choice. This is, this is stuffed up. And there wasn't much, you know, there was a lot of drug activity, but I wasn't a user. Yeah.
So I didn't, I was the guy in the area that sold drugs. I didn't take it. And, um, yeah. And I had this mindset of, I want to turn my life around and, um, got a good girl, as we would say from that life, a straight girl. Yeah. I should have cut the kids, you know, uh, we were taking the kids to school and, um,
You know, getting dinners done by six and I was in bed by 10.30 and all the normal stuff. And I wasn't used to this normal life. Living like a citizen. Living like a, yeah, civilian. Yeah, literally. And it was totally new to me. Like I'd never, ever done it. From the time I was a teenager, I was living, as we would say, free, doing whatever I want, whenever I wanted. Yeah.
It didn't work out too well. You know, there was some resistance along the way and you had to learn the hard way. But anyway, so I just pushed through and little did I know that I had so much baggage from that old life. It was just, I was suppressing, suppressing, suppressing, suppressing. And one day it just exploded. It just exploded.
One morning I woke up in tears, didn't know what was happening. Within 15 minutes of that, you know, I tried to hang myself out the back under the begola. And yeah, it was just, it all happened really quick. And I actually was not successful. I hit the ground. I'm sitting on my bum and I'm looking around.
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Chapter 4: What was Gaz's experience during his time in prison?
Like, you know, that's where I started that mentality. What, you think I'm a dickhead? And I thought, I'll show everybody. And my mentality at that stage, tunnel vision, was we'll all end up on the front page, shot by police. That's the easiest way out. And It's all finished like a gangster. You know, that was my mentality at that time. And I've gone out for bang.
It's my last laugh, my last crack of the whip, my last hurrah, you know.
And people will be talking about you going, oh, you went out guns blazing.
That was my mentality. So I thought, yep. And I grabbed the phone. I rang the local police station. And I said, it's all right, you know. I said, I'm going to leave this address. I'm an SVO, which is Serious Violent Offender. I said, you want to get here or I'm going to hurt someone. There was no one in the house. It was just me. Mrs. had gone to work. Kids had gone to school.
And, yeah, and the lady on the phone, so it was a lady obviously on the desk, the police stop. She said, excuse me. I said, you fucking heard what I said. So I'm only saying it once. And I hanged up the phone. So I give them my address, my name, all that. And thought now I'm going to, when they come here, I'm going to grab a knife. I'm going to run out the front. Bang, bang, bang.
So in that time I'm pacing around and trying to, you know, and I can remember it was almost like sitting off. I could see myself like going through the motions and I can remember like, you know, thinking, well, what are you doing? Like, this is huge. Like you, you, you backed yourself into a corner. This is going to be a really bad day, but the, the emotions are taken over. Like the, the,
The ball was rolling. There was no stopping me, but I can remember thinking, what are you doing? But I'd already done what was going to happen. Yeah, it's hard to unravel that. I thought now, yeah, when they get here, I'll run out the front and that's it.
Yeah.
Within a couple of minutes of hopping off the phone and gearing myself up and waiting for them to be at the front, I heard the roller door in the garage go up to the house. Had a look, and it was my girlfriend. And she's come in, and I'm like, what? Obviously, I've decked the knife. And she's like, are you okay? I said, I'm fine.
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Chapter 5: How did Gaz's mindset change after his prison release?
And I couldn't tell her how I was feeling leading up to any of this. You know, it was my own dirty little secret what was going on in my head. And she's like, what's the matter? I said, nothing's the matter. Nothing's the matter. I said, I just can't. I've had enough. I just can't do this. She's like, what are you talking about? Like, are you all right? Like, you don't seem right.
And so she sort of followed me around for the next few minutes, probably about five minutes or so, and talked to me. I said, I can't. Just leave me alone. I'll be all right, you know. And I remember thinking in my head, I'm in shit now because this has gone from suicide by cop to a hostage situation. You're digging yourself a deeper hole, aren't you?
You know, and next minute I've heard a bit of ruckus out the front, and I've peeled the curtains back, had a look, and there's obviously police everywhere, tactical gear everywhere. you know, the right van in the driveway and they started coaching me, you know, get it right, evacuate, all the stuff, hands up, all the usual. And, um, and I said, well, I turned to her, I said, well, that's it now.
I said, there's nothing I can do. She goes, what do you, and when she looked, she had a look. Yeah. She's like, what have you done? The first thing she said, cause she knew my old life, but she, you know, she knew what I'd been up to, but she'd never seen that side of me. And, um, She's like, what have you done now? You know, what have you gone and done?
And it probably looked like to her I'd massacred the community because there's so many police. She was not, yeah. And I said, well, I called them on myself. She said, what do you mean you called them on yourself? And I said, I can't do this. I said, I'm going out the front and they can do me on the spot. I'm done. And then she sort of went white. She got what was happening.
She dropped to her knees and she grabbed my hands and she said, I love you. She started crying. She said, you can't do this. She said, I can't have you hurt yourself. I can't see you hurt. I love you, blah, blah, blah. And obviously that was my ā now I look back on it, that whole morning was cry for help. I just didn't know how to ask for help and I didn't know what was happening.
My emotions had exploded. And when she said that to me, it gave me a reason to get out. It gave me an avenue. Now I've got an excuse not to do what I was going to do.
Yeah, see where you're coming from.
A bit of love conquering evil, a bit of light conquering dark. And so I've said, all right, I'm going to just go out and surrender. Through the knife, open the front door. Obviously, they get on the ground, the usual. Tactical operations is, you know, down there we call them SOGs. They cable tied me, you know, threw me on the front lawn. Cleared the house.
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Chapter 6: What traumatic events influenced Gaz's turning point?
I said, I'm fucking fine, you know. He goes, no, you're not. He goes, how do you feel about me not taking you to prison today and we take you to hospital? And yeah, man, I mean, it hit me like a ton of bricks. When the enemy, you know, shows compassion, it just lands different. Yeah. Like we were literally, we hated each other.
Yeah. I can imagine the relationship you would have had.
Yeah. And, um, when he showed, and let's be honest, it felt like he was showing me a bit of love. Yeah. He cared. And so that, that rocked me. And I said, well, okay, then he goes, cause I think you need to be checked out. And then he finished it with, um. He goes, I've seen some shit in my time. He goes, I can only imagine what you've seen. He goes, I've spoke to someone.
He goes, I take a pill in the morning. Yeah. He goes, how about we go get your head checked out? And I said, all right, let's do that then. And it was the first time I'd accepted help, you know? Yeah. Well, long story short, funny bit is I end up, they've put me in an ambulance, take me to hospital, do the mental health act and all this stuff. Yeah.
I'm in the back and I've got two, like, you know, one pip, you know, just fresh out of the academy escorting me. And I've said to them, it was a guy and a girl, and I've said to them, so what was your line of defense? What did you have lined up for me? And they said, oh, you're in trouble, Gary. I said, what, what was the protocol? How were you going to run it?
And, um, they said, well, no, no one wants to speak to you, especially apart from special operations. They're the only ones to communicate with you, negotiate with you. And then, um, from there, there was going to, they were going to send the dogs in first. Yep. And if you got past the dogs, then they were going to send non-lethal rounds. So obviously being background rubber bullets.
And then after that, the third line was lethals. Yeah. And then I sort of chuckled to myself because there was no way I was getting what I wanted. I would have got bitten by the first dog and screamed.
And they're scary, those dogs.
Yeah, I would have screamed like a bitch. So it wasn't even going down the way I thought it was, you know.
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Chapter 7: How did Gaz's past actions come back to haunt him?
But for him, that was all love.
No one gets it perfect. So, yeah, we try all different ways. But I just make the observation that I think it's important that kids want that restriction. They want those things. You don't know it at the time. You hate the parent at the time. But that's probably the way to go. What attracted you to the life of crime? Like, was it people you're hanging around with or people you looked up to?
What was it? And at what age did you go? You know, mid-90s, I was like 15, 14, 15, 16. So in the mid-90s, you know, the whole hip-hop thing was big. Yeah, okay. I was listening to Tupac and Biggie and Snoop Dogg and all that sort of stuff. So you're going to be a gangster now. Oh, that was pretty cool. It was appealing. It was the girls and the drugs and the gangs. And so there was that.
And then obviously the movies, I was watching, you know, all the movies, Scarface and all the stuff as a teenager. I mean, I was a little, I was a high stimulant little kid. So I can remember being as young as five, six years old and kids jumping puddles and climbing trees and I'd get pretty bored with it.
Right, you needed something.
Yeah, and so I'd grab a bottle and smash it on a drain and get a little buzz, you know. It's about as bad as it got. But then, you know, my environment, you know, mum working her ass off and, you know, not having a role model in the home, not having money in the home. When I stepped out into the streets ā
You know, as a teenager, I'll be honest, you know, the kids with the Nikes and the gold chains and the lowered vehicles, you know, they looked appealing. They were the ones you were looking up to. That looked really cool. Yeah. It looked like, you know, I can remember being in high school and the teachers going, so what do you want to be when you grow up?
And I'd say, miss, I'm going to run my area. What a shit career choice, you know, but as a kid.
And, like, you're talking and just I think our listeners understand, but run your area. It wasn't sort of you don't want to be the local mayor.
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Chapter 8: What role did karma play in Gaz's life?
That was weed. And that time it was acid, ecstasy. Yeah. Speed. There was no ice or heroin around. Right. The mountain police did a really good job at keeping heroin out of our town.
Yeah.
So you had to go to the next town's down, which was Sunshine, Footscray, St. Aubin's. And, um, yeah, because there was, you couldn't score heroin in, in, in Melton. It was like that for years on end. So the police really were adamant on not letting any people set up shop with heroin in Melton. Ice hadn't made it on the scene. We're probably a bit of a lower end of community to be on the coke.
So it was, um, it was more of the party stuff. It was the weekend prescriptions as we'd call them, you know, the acid, ecstasy, bit of weed and, um, some speed. Yeah. The rave scene was big then. The techno scene was big in the mid-90s. Yeah. So it was a lot.
So you had the market there. Yep. Looking back, and we'll talk about it as we progress through your life, and you became addicted to drugs and you hit the bottom as a junkie. Yeah. You know the dangers.
Yeah.
I'm not asking you now how you feel about selling the drugs. I just want to get a sense of did you care at that stage? Did you like the damage that's been done?
Let's be honest, Gary. What is the life of crime or the streets or gangs or drugs or whatever you want to talk about on that level? Just crime and criminals in general. It's powered by greed.
Yeah.
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