Chaos Erupts After Trump Makes Fatal Move Exposing His Plot to Never Leave WH
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What historical patterns does Greg Jackson cite to explain today’s political violence?
You teach at the college where Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
I now get to see all sorts of hot takes that I know are demonstrably wrong.
I think silence by white folk like you and me is capitulating to the fascist violence.
The fake news that we just talked about.
I wanna be careful though here when you say fake news, that's something that Trump uses a lot. So my c are are you a Trump supporter? Are you so um
Goodness, where where do I start with this?
Joining me today on iHip News is Greg Jackson. He is a historian and host of History That Doesn't Suck podcast and author of a new book. Been there, done that. Professor, how are you today?
I'm doing all right. Yourself?
Fantastic. Um, you in your new book, you argue that America's problems at the moment aren't unprecedented. Make the case for my listeners who read the news every day and feel like this is like an abusive shit show, that this isn't the worst it can be.
Absolutely. Look, as I state right out the gay, I am not saying that things are copacetic. Um what I am saying is that we tend to romanticize the past and we lose sight of the fact that a liberal uh democracy requires constant fights and it has been constant fights. And so I go through over a century of American history, taking this from the 1790s up to 1900, regaling you with tales of of fake news, uh of contested elections and political violence that I think will make most people's hair stand on edge.
So, is your purpose of that to let people know that if we are engaged and if we participate, it can hold?
Yes. In fact, my that's what I drive to in the conclusion is that look, what I've encountered as I've traveled the country, as this as my career took this odd turn. I'm a university professor, right? Like, let's start there. I have a PhD, I'm a tenured history professor. And then my podcast, History That Doesn't Suck, it blew up. And the next thing I know, I'm touring the country. I'm getting to speak with people that I otherwise never would have met. And the question I get, I QA after QA is, are we at the end? Is this falling apart? That's what drove me to say. I'm going, I'm going to do a deep study, put my historical skills to use, and really interrogate the question. And this book is the product. And what I came away with as I stared into the deepest, darkest abysses of our history was the realization that our institutions are stronger than we tend to think they are in the moment.
And that our better angels, if I can use a Lincoln phrase, do tend to come out of the woodwork. That's what we've had happen over our course of 250 years. But that isn't a Pollyanna, everything's gonna be okay. The message is that those better angels do have to show up. And what I want to demonstrate is that previous generations have fought similar battles. And the point to that isn't to say, oh, so everything's Great, but rather to say, look, you've won these battles before, right? If if you if we personify America, Uncle Sam is in the ring, he's fighting an old contender he's beaten before. So this lack of hope, that cynicism is my biggest fear, Jen. Cynicism is what will kill the republic. So that's what my point is.
I'm I'm not here to say everything's easy, everything's fine, don't sweat it. I'm actually saying yes, sweat it, but you're strong enough for this. That's the point.
You read you write in your book about political violence kind of being baked into this country's history, and I completely agree with that.
How does the book argue that America’s institutions are stronger than they seem?
And you teach at the college where Charlie Kirk was assassinated. So when politician when politicians clutch their pearls and say this is not who we are. Historically, we have been a a a country that, at least in my lifetime and you know, my parents, that values the profits that gun makers make. Over safety of its citizenry. We value the profits that health insurance companies make. Over the treatment of somebody with cancer. We really have a a violent history, whether that violence is active, meaning an active shooter that shoots somebody, or passive, the passive um bigotry of of not standing up for sick people and standing up to corporations.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What historical patterns does Greg Jackson cite to explain today’s political violence?
0:00–3:45
2
How does the book argue that America’s institutions are stronger than they seem?
3:45–7:58
3
Why does the host link fake news to Trump’s strategy and its impact on democracy?
7:58–11:49
4
What examples of past electoral fraud and violence are used to warn about current threats?
11:49–16:09
5
How do the guests define fascism and why do they say the U.S. is at its epicenter?
16:09–20:10
6
What are the proposed actions to protect voting rights and marginalized communities?
20:10–24:21
7
Why do the speakers argue that silence from white allies fuels fascist momentum?
24:21–28:35
8
What final call to action do the hosts give listeners to confront the emerging authoritarianism?
28:35–31:34
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