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Chapter 1: What vision for the Democratic Party does Congressman Ro Khanna advocate?
All right, welcome back to IHIP News special episode with Congressman Ro Khanna, our fearless warrior who is advocating for the Epstein survivors, advocating for democracy, but also advocating for a more progressive, more worker friendly, more reach more of the people Democratic Party.
ditching corporate donors and having an actual political party that really is of the people, by the people, for the people, not for the corporations.
We need a new moral vision in this country and for our party, and we need an FDR-like moment for the Democratic Party. And we need to speak simply, plainly, and in truth. We need to say what happened in Gaza was a genocide. We need to say there are no more military sales to Israel. We need to say we need to tear down ICE, not just no masks and body cameras.
We've got to tear down the agency that is terrorizing Americans, terrorizing immigrants, and have a new agency like we had, by the way, since 1949. to 2003 that actually respects human rights.
Chapter 2: How does Khanna propose to address corporate influence in politics?
We need to be clearly for taxing billionaires more. We need to be for Medicare for all. We need to be for $10 a day child care. We need to be for free public college and 1,000 trade schools. We need to be for a Marshall Plan for America. And we need to say things simply which are concrete. I'm sick of politicians saying, I'm for the American dream. I'm for renewing the American dream.
I'm for standing for human rights.
Chapter 3: What urgent issues does Khanna highlight regarding human rights?
I'm for the American family. I'm for every kid having a shot. I'm for a high floor, low ceiling. I don't even know what the, what does it mean? Where do you stand? And that is the problem with the Democratic Party. People, Republicans come up to me and they say, look, well, I don't agree with half the things you just said, but at least you say what you believe.
You know, one of the only lesson we should learn from Donald Trump is like he's not afraid to say what he thinks. Like Donald Trump is out there saying crazy things like let's conquer Greenland. And then we're like poll testing whether we could be for Medicare for all.
Chapter 4: Why does Khanna believe in the need for a new moral vision in politics?
Right.
That is that's what drives me crazy about the Democrats, the crowdsourcing, what their opinion is. So here's where I am and where a lot of my listeners are, is we feel like the Democratic leadership is twofold right now. We need Democratic leadership and we need ironclad resistance to the fascism. And it feels like the leadership is really corporate vested.
And then there are progressive members of that, like yourself and others. And then you're seeing the base like myself. I was a pretty, you know, MSNBC liberal voted blue no matter who harm reduction. And I've really moved further to the left. And that's not happening in a vacuum. The polling is starting to fair that out. I thought you moved the whole base. That was my theory.
But I think the real frustration is that, and we have to just name names a little bit, Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer just do not seem equal to this task. We have a crazy psychopath, a dipshit of epic proportions who is crazier than a shithouse rat running the country, surrounded by people who will sit and pile effusive praise on him ad nauseum, bring him trophies.
And it seems like it would be the easiest thing on the planet to say no. And what got my attention is like, why do they keep playing patty cake with this guy? Why are we even talking about funding ICE?
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Chapter 5: What criticisms does Khanna have for current Democratic leadership?
I agree. Schumer, I've called for him to step down as minority leader. And I don't understand why we're even talking about no new funding, right? Like they were saying, oh, Roe, you may have to come to vote tomorrow back. I'm rushing back to D.C. And I'm like, why are we even talking about no new funding for ICE? They have $75 billion that was passed in the big, ugly bill.
We should not fund an additional dime in two weeks, in two months, in two years, not in Donald Trump's presidency until they tear down this agency and they start anew. And they start with actually recognizing human rights. And they start with recognizing the human rights of actually Americans and immigrants.
Now, I would say with Hakim, I think there is a progressive energy and majority in the House that allows him to be bolder. I don't think he's going to say an additional dime on funding for ICE. He stood his ground on the healthcare fight when Schumer caved. He was very helpful in the Epstein fight in getting a coalition. But the difference is that there's a lot of progressive energy in the House.
You've got Greg Cazar. You've got Pramila Jayapal. You've got Jamie Rask. I mean, I don't want to leave people out, but there are at least 20 people, Delia Ramirez, who are really the heart and soul of the fight. I love serving in the House because, you know, you go over to the Senate, it's like no one, it's a pin drop, like you can't hear anyone, you can't talk.
Chapter 6: How does Khanna describe the relationship between the Democratic Party and its base?
You know, it's like, you know, and then it's like being in detention on the House. You know, everyone's screaming, everyone's, but it's much more the American people and the House has the fight. The House gets the moment. The House gets that this is not a time for just going along. And people are tired of speeches. You know, everyone is looking for sort of the charisma and showmanship.
I said courage is the new charisma. What people really want is action. They want principled action. They want actually to get things done to stand up. And what we showed with Epstein is if you're creative and bold, you can do things even if you're in the minority. Like we were in the minority. Exactly. Right? And we got Donald Trump to sign the law.
We've done, Massey and I, or others, we've tried a lot of things that don't work. We've tried war powers resolutions that don't work. But you've got to take shots on goal. You've got to be out there. You've got to be out there on the streets.
Chapter 7: What role do billionaires play in the current political landscape according to Khanna?
You've got, you know, I went to Minneapolis after Alex Preti was shot. And I stood there with third and fourth generation Minnesotans. It's not enough. A lot of these folks, they're well-meaning. They think, okay, you go to Congress, you, you know, you vote, you're in a committee. I often joke, they've got all these comms people in committees.
I was like, no one pays attention to what you're doing. No one in the country is watching these committee hearings. Get out there, be with the people, be bold, take steps to understand the moment we're in.
I feel like if we had a different speaker, and I've had Minority Leader Jeffries on. Oh, you have? Yes. He's been on the podcast before. And I understand. I think he's good natured and wants goodness. I feel like there is what the people want right now and what would just be an electric lightning bolt that would make the turnout for the midterms too big to rig would be just some badass going, no.
We're not giving you shit. You're killing Americans. You're building, buying warehouses to house people, a.k.a. concentration camps. That's what this budget, this ICE budget is going to do. They want to put human beings in warehouses and grade people on legal, illegal, brown skinned. And then, of course, I read this article the other day. There's a guy from Ireland that has been in a
He called it a concentration camp, his words, who had like a visa issue for four months. And so when I think about the MAGA movement, you know, we can say, oh, it's about white supremacy and it's only for rich white men. They wanted to kill Mike Pence. He was a Bible thumper. Right. Right wing Republican, a good soldier.
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Chapter 8: What does Khanna suggest is necessary for the future of the Democratic Party?
He just wouldn't break the law at the tail end. And they wanted to kill him for it. I just feel like this moment, I 100% agree with you that Chuckles needs to go. He's not the man of the moment. He's completely compromised by Israel, in my opinion. And that is his first and foremost action as a senator.
He's bragged about getting them support when you've got a genocide going on. And it's not me saying it's a genocide. That's what the UN finding is. Genocide scholars. Yeah, that's what the scholars say. And you're then bragging about getting them more support. But I think we can get the house to a point of no new funding in the stand. I mean, for me, it's personal. I'm the son of immigrants.
My grandfather was in jail for four years as part of Gandhi's independence movement in the 1940s, 1930s, 1940s. I'm of Hindu faith. I grew up. I was born in Philadelphia, Bucks County. To this day, when I go on overseas trips, even though if I'm going in the Air Force planes, my mom says, don't lose your passport. I was like, Mom, the Air Force has the passport. It'll be fine.
And so to see a countryāand I grew up in a time in Bucks County where teachers believed in me, Little League coaches believed in me. I was never told you can't do what you want just because you're a son of immigrants or have a different faith or look different. And now I go placesā
and people are in lines and they're brown and they say, here's my passport, I'm carrying it in the United States of America. I went to the California City Detention Center and I met with these immigrants who were detained. By the way, they put me in a room with 47 people and the prison warden left. So they're obviously not a security risk. They wouldn't do that if they were murderers or rapists.
And one person talked about showing me his broken nose. No medical care. Someone talked about having blood in his urine. Can you get me a doctor's appointment? They can't get a doctor's appointment. People wanted to be voluntarily deported. They were that desperate. sort of mistreated. And they couldn't get voluntarily deported because there's no judge.
It's all backlogged because Stephen Miller has a quota of 2,000 to 3,000. Let's just fill these places in their private detention centers so they don't want to spend the money on the food or the medical care or getting the legal processing. This is happening in the United States of America. what the American people want to say, not just kids of immigrants.
What third, fourth, fifth generation Americans want to see is a Democratic Party that says, that's not America. That is, we are going to stand up against that because it's a violation of our faith. It's a violation of human dignity. It's a violation of the Constitution. And people want strength. And they mistake, our party mistakes strength.
Oh, let's just get the guy with the military uniform or law enforcement. No, strength comes from conviction. That's how Gandhi led. That's how Mandela led. That's why Bernie leads. Strength comes from moral conviction and standing on a moral ground. That's why Mamdani was so powerful in what he did in New York. People knew he believed what he was saying.
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