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Chapter 1: Who is Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan and what is her significance?
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We have a very special guest today on IHIP News, Lieutenant Governor from Minnesota, the highest ranking female Native American, Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan.
Thanks so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here with you.
I'm so happy to meet you. I have been pulling for you. I did not realize that the United States had never had a Native American governor. So when Governor Walz was running with Vice President Harris, I was like, The number one thing I'm excited about is for them to win. The second thing I'm excited about is to have a Native American governor.
And we got neither, and we got a complete net running the country. So add it to my list of disappointments with the election.
Well, I think that's the least of our problems, but I appreciate your support. The good news is that we have the opportunity to have a Native American woman governor in Deb Haaland, who's running in New Mexico. So I'm going to try to be the first Native American woman to serve in the U.S. Senate instead.
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Chapter 2: What challenges are Democrats facing in leadership?
Well, I wholeheartedly support your position. You have a populist message, which seems to be something that the Democratic establishment is having trouble wrapping their arms around. And I note that you do not take APAC money. So how does that put you in comparison to other candidates?
Sure, so I don't take corporate PAC money and I don't take corporate PAC money because I think corporations have plenty of power in Washington. It's the rest of us who need it and it's focused on both sides of the aisle, frankly, and I think that's what's impacting. our elections and the results that we're getting. I also do not take APAC money, nor do I think that they would give it to me.
You know, I, well, but I made the decision, you know, to speak out and say that I would have supported the Sanders resolution this summer, that both of my senators, Senator Klobuchar and Senator Tina Smith, voted in support of, to say that we're not going to have offensive weapons going to Israel when children are starving. And, you know, that's a position that I stand by.
I'm a mom, I'm a child advocate, and we have to use our voices to speak up when we see And so I can call out Benjamin Netanyahu's government in the same way that I can call out the Trump administration as well. And I think we need to use our voices. And that's what I did. And now they've decided to go after me and they're supporting my opponent in a big way.
Isn't that just, it's so frustrating because it's like doing the right thing since Citizens United has put people that really wanna do the right thing in a terrible position in terms of being able to compete financially. And it takes so much money to run now.
Right. And that's of course, you know, we've known that for a long time, but really, you know, running for Senate is the thing that has just, for me, opened my eyes in a major way. People want us to do the right thing. People want us to be courageous and simply nibbling around the edges isn't getting us anywhere. When I travel across the state of Minnesota, folks aren't saying like, gosh,
you know, be careful, right? They're saying, be bold, do the things we need you to do. People cannot afford their lives right now. And so we need to make sure that we're going big so that folks know one, they can trust us. And two, that, you know, we're going to fight for them, but not just in 2026. It's what we're building.
For 2028 and 2030 and 2032, we need a Democratic Party that is no longer fighting from a defensive crouch, but is telling people what it is that we're for, that we're going to fight for the things that they need and that they deserve.
I completely agree. And I'm just wondering, what was your thought, your first reaction when you heard that the Senate had caved on the government shutdown? I was so profoundly disappointed. And it goes back to leadership in the Senate is old, stale, and governed by corporate interest and seniority. And so as somebody looking to be in that body, what was your reaction?
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Chapter 3: How does Peggy Flanagan address corporate PAC money in politics?
And so when I was at Children's Defense Fund, I co-chaired the campaign to raise the minimum wage in Minnesota. And the big fight for us was to make sure that we were also indexing it to inflation. because costs were always going to go up. So we needed families to catch up and then to keep up. Now, every January for the last decade, we've seen an increase in the minimum wage here in Minnesota.
And the way that we talked about it is when you increase family income, you improve child outcomes and a seven dollar and 25 minimum wage that hasn't been increased in 16 years is completely unacceptable so i believe that we need to fight for at least a 17 dollar minimum wage um to just be very clear that what we are seeing now 42 million americans who are on snap
many of those folks are working many of those folks right for example at walmart or amazon and we are subsidizing these companies because they do not pay their folks a wage that is high enough for them to not qualify uh for for public programs um it's outrageous so like they're spending you know their snap dollars at their employer it's double dipping let's just pay people a living wage so they can just live the lives that that they want to live
And I think it's so important to restore dignity to the working person because the person that works at Walmart busts their ass. They have to, A, deal with the general public, which to me would be one of the downsides, and people bitching and complaining. And then on top of that, they don't earn enough to exist without supplemental income. It's just, it's crazy to me. So let me ask you this.
How do you feel about, Jennifer and I talk about on this podcast, like Amazon uses infrastructure, Walmart uses infrastructure, all these big corporations use infrastructure, but they're not paying taxes and they're not paying for it. The American taxpayer is subsidizing for the infrastructure. So we want an infrastructure tax.
so like if you really use like let's say amazon then you need to pay a percentage of your use to go back into the infrastructure budget how does that sound i mean it sounds pretty good because right now the folks who are working at amazon right are paying a higher tax rate than the very corporation itself that's not right that is the you know that is the entire
situation that we are facing right now. It is folks at the very, very top.
It is greedy corporations who are getting sort of everything they want and need with a just free ticket from the Trump administration and congressional Republicans that we have to say, like, who are we actually for the folks at the very, very top or people who literally are the ones who make this economy and this, you know, this country work? It is overdue. And
I think people are smart enough to start to understand that. These are the conversations that I have all the time about how unjust this is and people are ready. They want fighters and they don't want folks who are just simply going along to get along or worse, taking campaign
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