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GZM Rewind: Hidden Island 2

22 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What insights do Jess, Chris, and Dave share about Hidden Island Season 2?

0.031 - 6.018 Jess Fisher

To listen without ads, go to gzmshows.com slash subscribe. Looks new.

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6.038 - 27.523 Unknown

Open it, open it. These clothes look fresh. Look, footprints by the tree. Leo, do you know what this means? Someone else is on the island.

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29.528 - 56.476 Jess Fisher

this is for people who have already listened to all of Hidden Island including season 2 for those episodes there will be spoilers Hi, I'm Jess Fisher, director of audience engagement and host of GZM Rewind. I'm here with series creators and co-hosts of GZM Rewind, Chris Terry and David Kreisman. Chris is GZM's chief production officer and Dave is GZM's chief creative officer.

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56.897 - 67.534 Jess Fisher

We host a weekly recap show called GZM Rewind where we recap new GZM shows episodes weekly. So if you enjoy this, head on over to that feed to listen to us yap and gab and talk behind the scenes.

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67.514 - 73.244 Chris Terry

Maybe there's people out here who don't know what GZM Rewind is, and now all of a sudden you just nailed it. That's exactly what we did.

73.264 - 74.546 Jess Fisher

I was like, yeah.

74.686 - 75.968 Chris Terry

I think so. Quick five, everybody.

76.008 - 84.382 Jess Fisher

That's about it. Sweet. So, Dave, Chris, how do you feel now that Hidden Island Season 2 has concluded? Do you feel very proud of this project?

84.983 - 92.796 David Kreisman

I think it was great. As someone who was working on Season 3 today, I will say I'm in that world very heavily.

Chapter 2: What challenges did the creators face while developing Hidden Island?

237.04 - 238.102 Jess Fisher

I really enjoyed that.

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238.223 - 239.866 David Kreisman

Ars gratia artis.

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239.886 - 247.543 Chris Terry

Hey, listen, I was a jazz musician for 30 years, you know. Don't talk to me about doing the art for the art's sake when nobody shows up.

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249.086 - 268.595 Jess Fisher

So the show already started really in a really exciting way. At the end of episode one, they find out that there are more people on the island. And at the end of episode two, you start to figure out who they are. You know, Solomon rescues Amelia from the water. And then episode three, we meet the Deavers. So developing another family must have been very interesting. How are they similar?

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268.675 - 280.108 Jess Fisher

How are they different? And also the twist at the end with Solomon and Rose knowing all along that they were going to trick everyone, including their own children. What was it like to navigate all that?

280.628 - 291.74 David Kreisman

Well, you know, the show has two major challenges. The first one is that it all takes place on this one island and you can't leave. And then the second one, especially for season one anyway, was that you only have five characters.

292.662 - 302.873 David Kreisman

So going into season two, there was, for me, I was really thinking, I think we need to introduce more characters just because there's only so much that these five people can do.

302.853 - 304.956 Jess Fisher

And you need to have romance.

305.236 - 323.562 David Kreisman

You need to have a little romance and friends and, you know, different dynamics. Yeah. And then trying to make a family who's different. You know, Solomon is a lot more stoic than Colin, obviously, and he's a different kind of a dad. And, you know, trying to come up with these other characters was fun and how they would play off of who we have.

Chapter 3: How do the new characters in Season 2 impact the storyline?

403.836 - 406.439 Jess Fisher

Wow. That's fun.

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406.8 - 410.385 David Kreisman

And it's kind of the reason that they brought their kids, too, to sort of put the Robinsons at ease.

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411.887 - 424.625 Jess Fisher

Huh. Yeah. So on that, there's like layers of villainy, right? So we have kind of Ned, his tantrum in episode four with the monkeys and the dinner. Honestly, sincerely, I was like, that is so scary.

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425.026 - 426.448 David Kreisman

Yeah. It's very jealous. Yeah.

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426.614 - 438.912 Jess Fisher

So so we've got Ned. Right. And then we've got Solomon and Rose kind of like definitely for a moment. And then we've got Coral and then we've got Marie and Coral and Marie sort of duke it out for villain of the year.

438.932 - 459.347 Jess Fisher

I found it really cool that especially Solomon and Rose and Ned also there are villains that also have such complex reasoning for why they're doing what they're doing and kind of heartbreaking reasoning, too. What was it like to write so many villains and have so many twists? I did not see that betrayal come. And I also didn't see Coral's betrayal of Marie coming.

460.049 - 467.725 Jess Fisher

Y'all write some really interesting villains. Where does that start from? Is there a rule that villains should be complex or not just evil?

468.582 - 486.709 David Kreisman

don't know if it's a rule but it's certainly something we talk about a lot one of the things I like to do is introduce a villain and then have the the bigger badder villain get rid of the original villain so you realize how scary you know some Marie seems pretty scary until coral wipes are off the map yeah now we know just how dangerous coral is mm-hmm

487.043 - 491.453 Jess Fisher

Yeah, I do like that moment. You can feel like Coral fights back. I really like that moment. It's really scary.

Chapter 4: What inspired the play within Hidden Island's plot?

502.899 - 506.487 Jess Fisher

Yes, but Marie might be my new favorite villain.

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507.243 - 508.705 Chris Terry

Oh.

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508.725 - 509.626 Jess Fisher

I really like her.

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510.647 - 515.113 Chris Terry

She's fun. Are you saying Jude from Six Minutes is being usurped? Is that the word?

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515.433 - 519.718 Jess Fisher

Very, very possible. Maybe it's evil person with accent. That's my thing.

520.159 - 524.744 Chris Terry

That is your thing. You like all your evil people to have an accent.

524.764 - 543.44 Jess Fisher

Yeah. You kind of see her, especially even through season one, as the potential savior. And then her twist in season two was very exciting as well. But the play was really exciting because of the different moments that were going on. So many different moments going on at the same time and how to trick Ned. Can you play Ned loses control? It's one of my favorite moments.

544.621 - 558.469 Ned

What the man said was right about me. I'm just a... Ned? Something has changed. I... Can't reach it.

559.31 - 564.455 Rose Deavers

Keep going, Ned. Stay with the story. Amelia, what's happening? Where did our parents go?

Chapter 5: How do the villains in Hidden Island add complexity to the story?

1371.607 - 1379.498 Jess Fisher

I really just delighted in making them bad actors. Just really quick to wrap it up. Episode six, Bad Acting.

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1380.102 - 1381.044 Solomon Deavers

We're on a beach?

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1384.75 - 1385.531 Chris Terry

I think so.

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1385.571 - 1394.946 Unknown

Where are we? Ribbit, ribbit, ribbit. Is that a frog?

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1395.407 - 1397.25 Solomon Deavers

I've never seen one that big.

1399.711 - 1403.055 Jess Fisher

And Colin also was like, ah, it was in my high school production of Hair.

1403.115 - 1406.379 David Kreisman

Yes. It's a good little Easter egg. Will loved this stuff. Yes.

1406.82 - 1408.141 Jess Fisher

That's good. That's good.

1408.161 - 1412.266 David Kreisman

Fun fact that Mandy and Michael Oye, who plays Solomon, were in Hamilton together.

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