Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is an Irish Independent Podcast. Folks, welcome. We are going to talk some golf. I am happy to say on the show this afternoon, with thanks to our sponsor, Sky Sports, there's kind of a lot to get through. Plenty going on. Golf is getting into that sweet spot. We are under 50 days to the Masters.
And happy to say of thefriday.com, once again, he was on a couple of weeks ago, and as predicted, people really enjoyed him. Kevin Van Valkenburg is with us, KVV. I do have permission to call you that. Warm welcome once again.
Yes, please do. Please do. KVV became a nickname when I was at ESPN and it's just kind of riding with it ever since now. So happy to do it.
Good. We're coming to people a little later than planned today. I'm not one to apportion blame. I think that's a childish, immature thing to do.
Chapter 2: What are the latest updates on Tiger Woods' potential Masters return?
But if we are to blame anyone, it would be entirely KVV. I just think we should state that as well.
I'll eat this one for sure. I'm very sorry to the fine Irish people who are like, what the heck? Where is my daily pod? So, yes, it's on me.
Yeah, your commute's ruined. Tweet him abuse. It's okay. So I want to start in a few different places. Well, I'll start in Riviera, a few different aspects there. Tiger Woods was obviously tournament host and was in the CBS booth. I'm going to play a clip in a second. By the way, it's this slightly unsaid thing with Tiger and Riviera and the CBS booth.
Almost infamously, prior to his terrible car crash, he was in the CBS booth and didn't look himself, didn't look in the full of his health. It's kind of become this unofficial check-in like early in the year. Has Tiger, you know, I thought he looked in the full of his health really good.
Yeah, it looks better. You know, I think it's interesting. Obviously, I think about this with Tom Brady, you know, great quarterback. He is always talking about fighting inflammation. Everything he does is to fight inflammation. And you can see that sometimes I wish that he could hook up with Tiger and hook up with Brady because you can see sometimes when Tiger.
is feeling sort of inflamed when he looks puffy and not himself. It looks very different than he did. Some of that is aging, but some of that is just kind of life. You know, I know he's, he mentioned he's still lifting a lot. It's trying to stay jacked in the, in the weight room. But they're definitely, you know, he's, he's times when he looks a lot better and this was one of those times.
So it's, it's definitely true. That was kind of a moment of like, Oh man, when he was in the booth, Those years ago, just looked very tired, looked very like his words were kind of coming slow to him. And you just kind of hope that, you know, he's able to kind of manage the pain that he's been in for a long time with his life throughout, you know, various golf injuries and car accidents and such.
He was joined, obviously, of course, by Jim Nance and Trevor Immelman. And he had said in the previous few days at the press conference that the Masters was not necessarily off the table. And so, as we can hear here, Nance picked and pulled at that thread.
And, of course, McIlroy will defend. Scotty will be there.
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Chapter 3: How does Rory McIlroy's recent form impact his chances at the Masters?
And we've seen that routine before, but it will be so tiger heavy as opposed to kind of, you know, Scotty could be the greatest player we've seen since or giving, telling other stories. And then on the Thursday TV broadcast, he will be a featured player. And so I think people have increasingly had this experience where Monday to kind of 12 rounds into Tiger's Thursday round.
He's such a prominent figure and you have this sense of what was all that about by like mid-Thursday afternoon? People are torn about this Tiger and the Masters.
I think what's interesting, you think about the people's perspective who are there. I would say at least half of the people who are there, it's the only time they've ever been to the Masters and the only time they'll ever go to the Masters. So their feeling is, well, I want to see Tiger at the Masters. I don't care what he shoots.
I want to have that experience to be able to always say, man, I walked around Damon Corner and saw Tiger hit it into 12 or go for it in two on 15 or 13. And so that energy is like a part of the fan experience in a lot of ways. But I think from a media perspective, it's almost like a sort of a false god in the sense of...
man, are we really going to write this story again of like, whoa, could Tiger get in this? Could he have a chance? The players who are in their prime and are more likely to actually win, they don't seem to mind it because the spotlight kind of then turns a little bit away.
And Rory has talked about this of like, well, there was a few years where I thought I was going to be able to fly under the radar a little bit because Tiger was the whole story. Tiger in coming off 19 in 2020, was a fall Masters. Everyone thought that was Rory's best chance, like a fall Masters, Tigers the defending champion, and Rory was awful in the first round and ended up missing the cut.
So it's just kind of... I don't know. I think that some perspective would be good in the sense, like you can enjoy the ceremony of it. He's always said, I don't want to be a ceremonial golfer, but there is kind of a ceremony and it is kind of a, an aura of watching him play around there.
I fell for it the first few times that I, you know, was there and he was there, but I just do think it would be healthier for the game if we sort of put him into a different category of like, oh, it'd be fun. Boy, it'd be a miracle. But zero expectations for this anymore. Like not even like an outside expectations chance. And he is such a driver of interest and has been for a long time.
I think it's a little bit less than it used to be, but it's still going to be like a lot of casual fans. That's what they want. They want to tune in. And see him on the featured groups. They don't want to see some of the younger players because they're casuals and that's just what they're drawn to.
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Chapter 4: What challenges has Tiger Woods faced in recent years?
And it was kind of a weird phrasing. He said in response, they have asked me. And it was like, and he said, my input on it. And everyone said, they have asked me my input on it. So I don't know. I presume if his input was I'll be the captain, they would take that input on board. He said, I haven't made my decision yet. which implies to be fair, they asked him, I haven't made my decision yet.
I'm trying to figure out what we're trying to do with our own tour. That's been driving me hours upon hours every day, trying to figure out if I can actually do our team. And he's on two boards. And obviously people are well aware of his friendship relationship with JP McManus. This is out of Dare Manor. I don't know, KVV.
It was like the most lukewarm response to being asked to be Ryder Cup captain I think I've ever heard. In a way, it completely typified his relationship with the Ryder Cup. Yeah, I mean, it's not a priority. I'm not saying no. It was strange. Like, you kind of want Tiger, if he's going to take it, to be like, you're damn right I'm doing it. And we're going for revenge.
I'm doing the next four and walk out. You know what I mean? But it was like, I'll see. I'm really busy. I'll see.
Yeah. The thing that I keep kicking around in this discussion is how do we know that he'll even be a good Ryder Cup captain? There isn't a lot of evidence to suggest. People keep pointing to the President's Cup in Melbourne. But in a lot of that, what he did was kind of roll the balls out and be like, okay, boys, who do you want to play with?
I mean, it's not like you're going up against a behemoth in the internationals who has won and tied one President's Cup in the whole history of... the deal. I mean, I think To me, imagine Tiger Woods sitting in a room and the analytics and data people come in and show him this is the proper way to play the hole.
I could very easily Tiger being like, well, why don't you just hit a big old sweep draw around this tree and hit it to three feet? There's a great adage in America of great players don't make good managers, good coaches, because they can't conceptualize how a mortal would hit a shot that is required. They're just like, well, you just do it.
Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, some of these guys who've tried coaching, a lot of them weren't great as a result of it. And so I don't know. I think Tiger, from his perspective, I wouldn't really want to take it in a dare because you're likely to lose. Just historically, the Americans are not particularly good in Europe.
They've banged their head against the wall over and over trying to do different things. You're probably only going to do this once, so why not do it in a place where you're more likely to be favored.
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Chapter 5: How does Tiger Woods' health affect his performance expectations?
And like sometimes you get glimpses of his golf IQ when he's like recording a video for TaylorMade and chatting with other players. You get these glimpses. But again, in keeping with Tiger at large, he's never led us into that kind of almost towering intellect that people hint at. We've never ever seen it, but people do say it's there.
And I'm not doubting necessarily, but we really have never seen it.
Yeah, I mean, you know, this is someone who went to Stanford and got good grades. So he got into Stanford and he did fairly well there. And he's been, you know, successful in certain areas of business. And if you do listen to him talk about swing geek theory stuff, like there is no one smarter. I've been present for, you know, a few of those conversations that even weren't recorded.
And it's even more fascinating. It's even more nerdy because it's not like performing for any kind of camera. Okay. And I, you know, I just don't know. He is someone whose instincts was a big part of his golfing to his feels. And so I don't know that I believe that he would embrace the intellectual side of the data stuff that, you know,
has been so essential in making the Europeans like gain every single 1% advantage that adds up over the, over the course of the tournament to a big advantage. I just think that his idea of playing golf is often more like, we'll just get it done. Like just be a man and suck it up and go do it. And I don't know that that's the, certainly not the way to win in Europe,
where the energy of the crowd is going to be against you most of the time. So I don't know. I mean, I just think his... You mentioned it before, his attitude towards the tournament. I do think he cares, but I don't think he's ever really kind of grasped how to make others care or how to make others feel comfortable around him. And this idea... that the boys will be inspired to win for him.
Yeah, maybe, but also, like, you still got to be the right pairing. You got to hit the right shots. So it's a certainly interesting debate. I think the unsaid thing in the U.S. Ryder Cup succession program is ā whatever plan they had, Phil Mickelson blew it up by blowing up his own career and removing himself from the line of succession.
And so now, you know, like Stuart Sink really wants to be the Ryder Cup captain and everyone's waiting around for Tiger to decide. So if Tiger says no, then is Stuart behind the process? Meanwhile, the Europeans probably have their next three Ryder Cup captains sort of privately lined up and they're figuring out like, well, Luke might do it again and the continuity will just continue forward.
So the Americans are immediately are putting themselves at a disadvantage in terms of strategy, just by their can't figure out like getting someone to say yes and, and doing it properly to so that we know that one captain is learning from the next.
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