Encore: Plumping Profits? A Kardashian Scandal | Part 3
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What feedback did listeners have about the series on Kylie Jenner?
Yes, welcome. So since we released our series on Kylie Jenner over the past couple of weeks, which you should go back and listen to now if you haven't already, we've gotten a lot of feedback from listeners. Yeah. And you all had a lot of questions and a lot of thoughts. And a lot of them were actually about another Kardashian, the original Kardashian, Kim. And as luck would have it, both Natalie and I have had quite a few experiences with Kim. So we are going to take this episode to cover all of that. Yeah, I can't wait. I'm actually dying to hear from you about your personal experience because we didn't even get a chance to get into that. And me, you. So Vanessa, what I really want to know is how did you first meet Kim Kardashian?
What was Vanessa's first encounter with Kim Kardashian like?
OK, so I met Kim Kardashian at the Mercer Hotel and it's a place where all the celebrities hang out. And I met her there for a drink. I mean, it was so strange. I remember absolutely nothing about this encounter, which I think is a very usual experience of talking to Kim Kardashian because it's so pleasant speaking to her. But like nothing of that much import actually gets said there.
Why was Kim Kardashian uncomfortable during their meeting?
She had just had a baby and she was sort of uncomfortable in her own skin, which is something that came up a lot in our conversations. I had also just had a baby. You know, she wasn't feeling very good about the way that she looked, but she was certainly wearing something extremely forfeiting and she was certainly Kim Kardashian. And yet nobody came up to talk, which is fascinating. Yeah, that's very surprising because I would expect that for like a pre-smartphone era. But this was like, what, 2014, 15, something like that? Something like that. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure pictures were taken, but, you know, could you sell a picture at that point to TMZ of Kim Kardashian talking on the couch to some random woman or? No, like you could probably sell one of her talking to Tom Brady or talking to somebody where they could be like, is Kim, you know, because at this point she was she was with Kanye.
How did Kanye influence Kim's media appearances?
But, you know, the story was Kanye. Right. And Kim was sort of like the sub story. So you met her for a drink. And was that, you know, was this just to get to know each other? Was this like very much on the record for a story? Yeah. This was to get to know each other. She had never had a cover of Rolling Stone. And if I remember correctly, Kanye didn't want her to do the cover. And so it turned into this thing where Kanye and Kanye's publicist were saying, I don't know about this. Are they going to make fun of you? What exactly is going to happen? And, you know, she really wanted to do it because, you know, her father is known as the attorney for OJ. But really, he was like a rock and roll guy. He had had a very early magazine that was almost like a type of billboard magazine. And so they had grown up going to lots of concerts. And she used to listen to like Mary J. Blige and Earth, Wind and Fire. And she was just like into music.
And he was, too. You know, so much of Kim's motivation is trying to make her father, who passed away too early, happy and make him proud of her in absentia so she really wanted to do it so I think there had to be this drink where it was like okay talk to Vanessa directly and you know that's how I sold her on it I said look this is going to be an iconic story I promise you
What was the story behind Kim's Rolling Stone cover?
I will make sure that this story is memorable and that it tells your fucking crazy ass like Kardashians rise to, you know, prominence story like in all of its full flower. And so she was like, OK, great. And then we were sort of off to the races. So then you start actually reporting it. And I assume you spent like a day with her. So tell me about that. OK, so I flew to L.A. I had not watched any of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. So then I'm, you know, on the plane watching all of these reality shows, just like what is happening? It would have taken me like 30 weeks to watch all the TV that had already come out about them. So I'm just kind of haphazardly like clicking on different episodes. So I landed in L.A. So I went to an office.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What feedback did listeners have about the series on Kylie Jenner?
0:17–0:59
2
What was Vanessa's first encounter with Kim Kardashian like?
0:59–1:23
3
Why was Kim Kardashian uncomfortable during their meeting?
1:23–2:17
4
How did Kanye influence Kim's media appearances?
2:17–3:47
5
What was the story behind Kim's Rolling Stone cover?
3:47–12:24
6
How did Kim Kardashian's mobile game impact her fame?
12:24–13:40
7
What was Kim wearing during the Forbes photoshoot?
13:40–16:12
8
How did Kim's personality come across during the interview?
16:12–35:38