Girls Gone Wild VHS tapes were a staple of early-2000s late-night TV. But who was being featured on the risqué videos? And who was the man behind the camera? Vanessa flies to Panama City Beach, Florida, to find out. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team and gain access to behind the scenes content, join our community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Vanessa and what is this series about?
Hey, Infamous listeners, it's Vanessa here. So we like to give you something to listen to every Thursday because we know some of you rely on having the show ready to go that morning. You might be commuting to work. You're going to school drop off. Maybe you're even taking a walk in nature. That would be very nice.
But right now, we're taking some time to put together some new stories to bring you soon. So we need a second, and we're going to redrop our Boy Gone Wild series. That is a series that is hosted by me, and it's about the rise and fall of something you may or may not remember from long ago, which is Girls Gone Wild. Many of us grew up seeing the ads on late night TV.
And regardless, I think we can all agree that it's probably affected the way that boys and girls interact, the way that pornography developed. It's just like a weird blast from the past that has a lot to do with the present. And it's one of my favorite stories. So go ahead and listen to Boy Gone Wild. As always, please start with episode one.
I know it's very annoying that our show goes in reverse chronological order. That's just sort of the way it happens when you put out multi-part series episodes. But always go to the first one. Otherwise, it'll be real weird. And just a heads up, when you listen to this show, we did get a lot of user mail saying that they didn't understand why we used an actor for the character of Riley Perez.
I want to be clear that Riley Perez is a real person who gave us his real story for this show. So everything you're hearing in this show, as always, is true. We are real journalists. We do the best we can. Riley is not an actor. We will always tell you if there's an actor on the show. So everything you're about to hear really happened, even if it sounds like fiction at first. All right.
Please listen. Enjoy the chaos.
This episode is intended for mature audiences.
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Chapter 2: What happened during the 2004 Bel Air robbery?
This is a story about thieving, about things being taken from you, things you don't deserve to have taken. So to tell it, we're going to start with an actual robbery, a famous one. It's a robbery that took place in 2004 at a house in Bel Air. Concrete, glass, pull-out back.
This house is owned by a guy who founded a company you may have heard of, but you probably haven't thought about it in a million years.
Now you can party with the wildest girls ever caught on tape. Girls Gone Wild.
Yup, this is the home of the founder of Girls Gone Wild, Joe Francis. He's about 30 years old, sort of good-looking, square jaw, but also often seems on edge, like he's gonna yell at a waiter. Tonight, he's not home, but somebody else is.
If you entered properly, you would enter through the gate in your car. You'd pull up a driveway that's on a pretty steep incline.
That's Riley Perez, and he isn't entering properly.
I walk through the bottom portion, making sure no one's there. Go up the steps, master bedroom, huge walk-in closet, second bedroom, which was a little gym that he had set up. I'm looking for the safe, yeah, but maybe it's not in a safe, maybe it's in a drawer. Looking for a little lockbox, anything that could lead me to possible mini-DV tapes that would fit in the camcorder.
Riley's looking for tape recordings of Girls Gone Wild that Joe might have in his safe.
Crazy enough, the smaller of the safes was open, so I don't have to fidget with it and try to come up with a combination. I open it. There's a couple of tapes in there, mini DV tapes. I'll take those with me, put those in the bag.
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Chapter 3: Who is Riley Perez and what role did he play in the story?
My name is Joe Francis. I'm a boy gone wild, and I like it up the ass.
Everyone exploits everyone, especially women. They want to be exploited. Joe Francis is a genius.
Lady, when you flush the Joe Francis toilet, there are just all kinds of stains.
I'd like to first start out by saying that I'm 100% innocent of anything that I just pled to.
From Campside Media and Sony Music Entertainment, I'm Vanessa Gregoriatis, and this is Infamous, a rolling series of incredible stories told over several episodes. This is episode one of a five-part series, Boy Gone Wild.
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Chapter 4: What is the cultural context of Girls Gone Wild in the early 2000s?
She made plaster casts of the genitals of rock stars. Better than an autograph.
You were like, do you want to do a story about groupies?
That's the kind of story I would have wanted to assign. Whatever might interest Rolling Stone's, you know, young male perverted readers.
I don't know if this came from you or another editor, but like Slipknot had had a lot of groupies. So we're talking about like Slipknot.
No, I wasn't going to hunt for groupies at 30 Slipknot shows. I wasn't going to stand backstage at one Slipknot show. So Bill and I just kept talking, just about what else was going on in culture.
That was a time when they had all these racy commercials for the Girls Going Wild VHS tapes.
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It felt like Rolling Stones demographic, young people, young women and young guys urging them on. These are not hired actors or paid performers. Somehow the world had gotten to the point where these guys holding cameras could ask the women to lift up their shirts or remove whatever articles of clothing and then they would do it. It was like mind boggling.
And so then obviously the question was, there must be some evil genius behind this.
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Chapter 5: How did Vanessa get the assignment to investigate Girls Gone Wild?
Hello? I said, hey, I'm from Rolling Stone. I want to come and be with you when you record Girls Gone Wild. I want to see how you do it. Why don't you come down to Florida?
I wasn't using a tape recorder, so that is an actor. But next thing I knew, I was on a plane. I just thought it was going to be like any other reporting assignment. But what actually happened... was so totally not fun, though it was definitely wild. So it all started in Panama City Beach, Florida.
My taxi pulled up to a Holiday Inn, one of those big hotels right on the beach, bunch of stories high, sort of modern architecture. I checked into the front desk, and actually, the guy gave me a wristband. Like, one of those paper wristbands that you get at concerts. My recollection was that I needed this wristband to get into the elevators, and I thought, well, it is spring break.
California, here we come.
Right back where we started.
He went to Laguna Beach High School, the setting of another TV show.
Next season on Laguna Beach, this is going to be the best year ever.
Now, Joe's family was wealthy. They're actually Austrian. That's quite a regimented style of culture. But there was nothing regimented about Joe Francis. He even went to one of those hardcore remedial schools in the woods at one point. Joe was just super LA and maybe super difficult. And that combination, after he graduated college, made him perfect to work in Hollywood.
But he didn't get a job in the mailroom of a big agency or something like that. What he did is come up with the idea of releasing his own VHS tapes.
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Chapter 6: What was Vanessa's experience contacting Joe Francis?
And we will get that for them. We fulfill that fantasy that guys have that they could just literally go up to a woman and make them show them their breasts.
I was like, okay, I didn't know that was a fantasy. But, I mean, this was the days before internet porn, so I hadn't yet seen every single porn fantasy in the galaxy. But judging by the success of Joe's tapes, it seemed like it was a fantasy a lot of people had. And it was clear that this fantasy had a dark side to it. It was about power and control.
Making people do irrational things and not taking no for an answer. But it wasn't until much later that I would really understand what that meant. More after the break.
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So after talking to Joe on the beach, I went back to the Holiday Inn to change. And then that night, I met up with Joe again to hit the main strip. This was sort of like Bourbon Street or Beale Street, but we're in Panama City Beach. It's identical bar after identical bar, drunk kids spilling out on the street. Everybody's holding like bright plastic funnels or footlong beers.
It's not even really college kids here, I realized. It's a ton of high schoolers who packed into their cars and drove from Tennessee or wherever. And now they're sort of prey for Girls Gone Wild, because Joe Francis is standing on the roadway checking them all out. He's got a few guys with him, shooters. They're carrying tiny little camcorders and wearing a special T-shirt.
This T-shirt has Girls Gone Wild in block text across the front. The shooters are also carrying another bag of T-shirts, except these are tank tops, and they're smaller, because they're for women.
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Chapter 7: What was Vanessa’s first impression upon arriving in Panama City Beach?
Oh my God, it's Girls Gone Wild. Is that like for real?
Yeah, it's for real. Do any of you girls want a t-shirt? So that's the play.
Hey mom, you know that Girls Gone Wild thing? He's going to give me a t-shirt that says Girls Gone Wild if I take off my swimming suit top. Is that okay with you? I love you.
Show your tits!
Show your tits!
Show your tits!
On spring break, this tank top was like having a giant bottle of Jack Daniels. Everyone wanted a swig. All you have to do is flash. It was a status symbol, an ingenious trick. Because in order to put the Girls Gone Wild t-shirt on, women have to take off the shirt they're already wearing. So why not just do that for the camera? Now the shooters also hand the girls a clipboard.
And pinned to that clipboard, there's a couple of pages. It's an incredibly complex legal document.
What is this? Where do I sign?
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