'I left my fiancé... now we’re back together' with Zan Rowe

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Zan Rowe 0:00
He asked me to marry him and I said yes because I knew it was important to him and I wanted to be with him. Approaching round two with a lot more maturity and honesty and being able to say, hey, look, I actually never wanted to be married.
Ruby Hall 0:13
Obviously, you've hosted Triple J Breakfast Mornings for over a decade. You're the brains behind Take 5 and it's celebrating 20 years this year.
Zan Rowe 0:20
Yeah, and I just remember thinking a few times about oh my God, I've gotten everything that I want and I'm not enjoying any of it. I think a lot of people sort of have that assumption of you go into media so you know what you're getting yourself into. Expecting someone to be able to step up and be bulletproof from day dot is I think a big ask. I love long distance. I'd started dating a boy from Sydney.
Ruby Hall 0:43
Oh my God. I'm like, what's wrong with me? Am I an avoidant anyway? You're just like your me time. Exactly. This episode of Inherited is brought to you by Deakin University. Decades of research from Deakin University has found that our teenage relationships can influence everything from romantic partners to our mental health during the transition to parenthood and the bond we have with our children. Learn more at deakin.edu.au forward slash inherited.
Ruby Hall 1:17
Zan Rowe, welcome to Inherited. Thanks, Ruby. Thank you for joining me. You are such an extraordinary interviewer, so I am a little nervous. I always am when I interview a journal or a broadcaster.
Zan Rowe 1:29
Well, you know what? I actually really love, I get the same, by the way. Do you? Yeah. But the thing I love about chatting with people who interview is that they know how to interview and be interviewed. And I see it like the best game of tennis. Yes. So I reckon that if we keep the ball up in the air, we'll be fine.
Ruby Hall 1:43
We'll be fine. We'll be absolutely fine. Obviously, you've hosted Triple J Breakfast Mornings for over a decade. You're the brains behind Take Five, and it's celebrating 20 years this year. Yeah. And did you pitch that to the ABC all those years ago? I did.
Zan Rowe 1:55
I did, yeah. So when I took over as the morning's host in like 2006 on Triple J, I wanted to make the show my own as you do when you're coming into someone else's show and you're like, how do I put my stamp on it? And there was a Friday morning co-host, which was kind of like a loose, someone just rolls in, plays some songs, have a chat. It's kind of a live thing. And I thought, how can we shape this into something with a bit more structure and also find a way to tell stories about people that maybe they're not used to telling? So I changed that idea of just hanging out and playing tunes to take five, which is obviously five songs, you know, double meaning where you're like taking some time out of your day, taking a moment, reflecting back.
Zan Rowe 2:34
But the key with it was finding a theme for that person. So always thinking about who I'm talking to and then curating a theme that I think will, I guess, get them to respond in a way that they haven't before.
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Zan Rowe 2:45
So that's where it began. And, you know, I listened back to some of those early take fives and it's, I'll say this, it's good to hear that I've improved as an interviewer. It's amazing, isn't it? When you actually like in media, you are learning in public. This is one of the things that you have to deal with and it's great, but it's also confronting when you listen back. Absolutely. I get it. Yeah. But, yeah, just over the years it's kind of gotten deeper and deeper and, you know, I've hopefully gotten better as well. And then taking that from radio to then making it a TV show was like the best thing ever because for years and years I'd just been looking at people in the studio and seeing their faces react when they heard songs and seeing how much they'd, you know, literally been triggered in the best of ways or in a really emotional way when they heard a song.
Zan Rowe 3:34
And so the idea of sharing that reaction with everyone else, like, oh, this will be a good TV show. But it took me a while to convince the big bosses to make it a TV show, but we finally got there.

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