Attacks on operational technology (OT)--gas pipelines, electrical grids, banking services—are on the rise. In this episode, we speak with Chris Kubecka about how these incidents can affect economies and public safety in every geography, and how we might defend against them. Chris is the Chair of the Cyber Program at the Middle East Institute (MEI) and has brought Operational Technology safety front and center across the globe. She details how these incidents can be a serious breach affecting economies around the world.Key Takeaways:00:06 - 01:07 Intro to episode01:40 - 03:17 The Middle East Institute04:34 - 05:22 The difference between information technology and operational technology11:39 - 13:08 Motives behind attacks13:20 - 14:33 How we should think about operational technology security, that we aren't considering today14:33 - 17:26 Do we need the government in order to follow cybersecurity safeguards?18:47 - 19:57 Ideal state for operational technology security20:26 - 24:38 Chris shares a recent, and very interesting experience25:42 - 27:38 What keeps Chris awake at night when it comes to operational technology

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