Ernie Garcia - Leading Through Crisis - [Invest Like the Best, EP.397]
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What is Carvana’s overall journey and how did it become a turnaround story?
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My guest today is Ernie Garcia III. Ernie is the co-founder and CEO of Carvana. Ernie joined me on this show in 2021, and despite all that the business has gone through since that conversation, you'll hear how he has the exact same demeanor and crystal clear vision for the business and its operations today. Carvana is one of the most remarkable business turnaround stories in recent history, and Ernie gives us a raw and candid explanation of navigating through a 99% stock price decline and ultimately emerging stronger on the other side. I don't know many leaders who could survive this. He credits his team again and again for successfully weathering the storm and maintaining morale. We discuss leading through a crisis, building for the long term, and a focus on ruthless prioritization and efficiency gains.
Please enjoy my conversation with Ernie Garcia. All right, Ernie, so you've got uh nicely profitable business growing forty percent, only one percent market share, big road ahead of you. Must have been a uh easy last couple of years.
That's basically the correct reduction of our story. And maybe the podcast is over.
It's great to see you again. I am so excited to have this conversation. I really do think that Carvana and your story the last three years has been one of the most interesting business and market stories that I've ever seen. In this case, I'm really lucky because I know a lot of your large investors. I know the story quite well. And I'm really excited to pick it apart. And I think because it has just been such an insane turnaround from Ludmilla. Moment in time was, I'm sure, a very scary or stressful point in the company's history. I'd love you to just tell us, bring us back to whatever you think of as the most harrowing or stressful moment in this whole story. I want to get into all the aspects of the story because I just think it's so rich with interesting detail and how you manage through it.
But maybe you could just bring us back to sort of right in the middle of the battle to get through all the COVID-induced strangeness in the business and then get it back.
Sure. I'm going to take a step and a half back just to set context and then let's get to those moments. I think we started in 2013 and we were a startup out of Phoenix that couldn't raise venture capital money. And I think we really had to scrap and claw to get a little bit of momentum. And we went public in 2017. We were the worst IPO of 2017, I believe. We went out at 15 bucks. We were down to eight in a couple of weeks. And I think that's important because basically for a large part of Carbana's life, I
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is Carvana’s overall journey and how did it become a turnaround story?
0:00–5:14
2
How did Carvana navigate the COVID‑19 crisis and its impact on transactions?
5:14–7:23
3
What were the biggest leadership challenges during the 99% stock price decline?
7:23–9:15
4
How did the team maintain morale and communication during massive drawdowns?
9:15–13:36
5
What strategies did Carvana use to stay calm and make decisive decisions?
13:36–15:45
6
How did Carvana prioritize projects and learn to say “no” to accelerate growth?
15:45–18:18
7
What operational efficiencies and vertical‑integration improvements drove profitability?
18:18–26:08
8
What key lessons on resilience and future growth can entrepreneurs take from Carvana’s story?
26:08–1:11:33
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