Etched - Building AI Hardware to Make Inference Faster and Cheaper - [Invest Like the Best, EP.480]
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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
1h 27m
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What is Etched’s mission and how did the founders get started?
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My guests today are Gavin Uberti and Rob Lockett, the founders of Etched. A few years ago, when they set out to build a better AI chip than the largest companies in the world, almost everyone I called told me it could not be done. They've since done it, taping out a working chip on their first attempt and becoming the first hardware company founded after ChatGPT to do so. They already have more than a billion dollars of customer demand for their first product and have raised $800 million to build it. Etch2Build's chips and systems designed to run AI models faster and at lower cost. They started the company in 2023, and the product is a complete rack for inference, the chip, along with the boards, the power delivery, the interconnects, and all the manufacturing to produce it all.
We talk about the technical bets behind their architecture, how they hired industry legends and paired them with elite 22 year olds, and why they believe inference will become one of the largest markets in the world. I think you will find the story of what they have built hard to forget. Please enjoy my conversation with Gavin and Rob. All right, gentlemen, it's been three years or so, Gavin, since you and I last did this, which is nuts. And at the time, I was just wildly intrigued by your story and what you were going to build. I didn't know a lot about chips at the time. I was considering investing in the company, and so I was calling everyone I could conceive of that could give me an opinion or something.
And at the time, basically the consensus was these kinds of companies are not built by young people. That the semis world, the best companies are founded by 40, 50-year-old people that have had a whole career's worth of experience, have learned all the problems, have shipped multiple chips. Two 21-year-olds are like, not going to do this. It's just not going to work. It was indicative of a theme, which was nobody believes in us. That's obviously changed a lot now. You know, just walk the halls and talk to the people that have chosen to come work here. But In the early days, it felt like this was something that you had to face down. What was that like facing that down where a set of incumbents and an industry worth of people and investors and everyone else sort of didn't believe in you?
And what did that anneal in you to build the company the way that you are? Like, what was the impact of that?
I think there's a certain level of naivety required to think that you could build a chip better than every other AI chip ever built and build a company to do it way faster than ever has been done. And we have the naivety. There's many times where we would say, like, why isn't this possible?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is Etched’s mission and how did the founders get started?
0:01–4:32
2
Why did two 21‑year‑olds decide to take on NVIDIA and the semiconductor giants?
4:32–11:47
3
What are the two technical bets behind Etched’s low‑voltage inference architecture?
11:47–23:45
4
Why does the team believe inference will become the largest AI market?
23:45–34:54
5
How did the founders’ personal origins shape the company’s culture and hiring philosophy?
34:54–45:00
6
What strategy did Etched use to recruit industry legends and pair them with young talent?
45:00–55:24
7
How did moving a dozen engineers to Bangalore for six months accelerate the chip‑tape‑out?
55:24–1:05:03
8
What were the biggest obstacles Etched faced and how did they raise the record‑breaking Series A?
1:05:03–1:27:19
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