Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ravi Gupta - AI or Die - [Invest Like the Best, EP.411]
18 Feb 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
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Chapter 2: How is AI transforming business operations?
So Ravi, a couple of days ago, you sent me a draft of this really interesting essay that you wrote called AI or Die, which is such an interesting framing for something that I know you've been thinking a lot about and have been thinking more and more about in a crescendoing way in the last few weeks and months.
Can you just start by describing the process of arriving at this essay and like what precipitated it? And then we'll talk about all of its various implications.
Like everyone, you see these new model advances and they've come out so quickly that you are using the models for whatever you're using them for the day before. And it's hard to think of even what to ask them when the new ones come out. So a couple of things happened.
One, you know, I'm on the board of Sierra, Brett and Clay's company, and they started describing some of the things that were able to be done in 01 Pro that were not able to be done with 4.0. And I was surprised. And I think that the specific example that came up was when Clay was talking about something he was doing with it, I asked him to show me how he was using it.
And when he did that, he asked the model a question, which was, are my instructions clear? Is there anything else I can do to make it to clarify what I'd like to have you do? That interaction was so different than anything I'd ever thought about with a model. I'd never thought to ask it a question.
And the model came back and said, no, actually, in fact, can you please clarify these five or six things? And I was pretty stunned by that interaction. That was point one. Point two was a friend of mine who was at one of the model companies left to go to another one. And I said, hey, what happened?
And he said, the pace of progress has changed so much in the last three months that I had to go to this one. And in our business, take the Matt Kohler quote that you and I both love. Matt is a good friend of ours, both of ours. Our job is not to see the future. It's to see the present very clearly. All of a sudden, it felt like the present was different than what I thought.
And so I just started trying to use it more myself. And I think I'm barely scratching the surface, but I was pretty stunned at what was possible from this. And I'm somebody who like lives in Silicon Valley and works as a venture capitalist. It made me wonder if there was other people who are going to be as stunned as I was.
So maybe talk about what you mean by AI or DAI in its most kind of intense form.
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