From White Settlers to Fascists: The IRA’s Troubling Allies
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Why did Irish republicans look for allies beyond anti‑colonial movements?
During Ireland's struggle for independence, Irish revolutionaries sought allies across the globe. In this series Brothers in Pain, we have seen how they forged links with other anti colonial movements and also the nascent communist government in Moscow, which had come to power in late nineteen seventeen. However, less well known were the attempts by Irish revolutionaries to seek allies in British colonies, not among the people resisting the Empire, but from colonial settlers, many of whom were of Irish extraction. This would see them travel to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and perhaps most controversially, South Africa. Within Europe, they also pursued a somewhat controversial policy by seeking support from the papacy.
While the papacy might seem like a natural alliance, Rome did have a long-standing opposition to republicanism and revolutionaries. Indeed, the IRA and Cork had been excommunicated. But perhaps most controversially of all, were the contacts made with Benito Mussolini, who was well on his way to becoming Europe's first fascist dictator at the time. Now to some this was just the politics of pragmatism, but to others it was a betrayal, and this episode explores that complicated and often uncomfortable history.
Hello and welcome to the Irish History Podcast. My name is Finn Dwyer, and this is the tenth and final episode of Brothers in Pain, a series that explores the global history of Ireland's struggle for independence. Now, over the last nine episodes, the series, which is hosted by Dr. Brian Hanley, has taken us from Ireland to Russia, Egypt, India, Britain, and the United States. We've seen firsthand how the Irish Revolution was shaped by the chaos of the wider world after the First World War, and how Irish Republicans tried to position their struggle within a global revolt against empire. But this final episode, as I've already alluded to, tells a complicated story. It's an uncomfortable history, as we follow Irish Republicans seeking allies among people who are often hostile to similar movements across the globe.
As always with episodes in this series, Brian brings out intriguing, overlooked, and fascinating characters, including Robert Crawford, a one time member of the Orange Order, who became a prominent supporter of Irish Republicanism, and Catherine Hughes, a descendant of Irish emigrants, who became a key figure in mobilising support in Australia and Canada. Now Bryan, as regular listeners will know, is a historian at Trinity College Dublin and one of the leading scholars of twentieth century Irish history. He has published extensively on the Irish Revolution, Irish Republicanism, and radical politics in Ireland in the twentieth century. You can find a full list of Bryan's publications linked below.
Brian begins the episode by recapping some of the alliances Irish Republicans had forged that he explored in previous episodes. And then he takes you on a whistle-stop tour across the British Empire and some of the complicated questions Republicans faced in British colonies as they sought support there. Then he returns to the arguably even more complicated politics of Europe and how they sought allies among people and organizations that were certainly not natural allies for revolutionaries. Sound on the episode is by Kate Dunley.
In august nineteen twenty, Harry Boland wrote to Joseph McGarraty, the important Irish Republican supporter who lived in Philadelphia in the United States. He taught McGarraty that it's obvious that left to ourselves in Ireland, we cannot hope to win the final victory without tremendous loss. So our dream is a worldwide organization. with a plan of campaign whereby we can meet the enemy not alone in Ireland, but all over the world. To Australia, Canada, South Africa, India, Egypt, and Moscow are men must go to make common cause against the common foe. Now when Boland wrote those words, he had no idea that there would be a truce in July nineteen twenty one, or indeed a treaty with Britain by the end of that year.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
Why did Irish republicans look for allies beyond anti‑colonial movements?
0:04–7:17
2
How did Irish activists try to secure support from the white settler dominions?
7:17–14:02
3
What role did the Irish diaspora play in Canada and Australia’s self‑determination leagues?
14:02–20:51
4
Why did Irish republicans seek the backing of the Vatican despite its suspicion of revolution?
20:51–28:07
5
How and why did Irish nationalists make contact with Benito Mussolini’s fascist movement?
28:07–35:06
6
What impact did post‑World‑War I European politics have on Irish‑Italian alliances?
35:06–39:15