Gilad Luria of Scenera

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What problem does Scenera’s technology solve in advanced chip manufacturing?

Avraham Hermon 0:00
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Avraham Hermon 0:20
Gilad Luria is the CEO of Sunera, an Israeli deep tech company, solving a critical blind spot in advanced chip manufacturing. As chipmakers stacked layers of silicon to pack in more power, billions of tiny connections linked those layers together. And until now, there was no way to check that all of them actually work. Sonera's technology inspected Every single one, catching defects that would otherwise make it all the way to a finished device. Avraham sat down with Gilad to discuss how the idea and technology evolved to fit the right problem, the challenges of building a deep tech startup in Israel, the importance of IP strategy, his advice for founders just starting out, and much more. This podcast is a creation of JMB Davis Ben David, an intellectual property law firm serving clients around the world.
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Unknown 1:42
I'm here with Gilad Luria, the co founder of Cinera, here in our Jerusalem office. So thanks for joining us today. And I'd like to start with a question What does Cinera do and what what need do you guys fill?
Gilad Luria 1:56
Maybe before we dive into what Cenera is doing, let me give you a bit of a background. So we're living now in an AI revolution period. And there are two stepping stones to that revolution. One is software, which we all use, all the AI software that we are are familiar with. But the other one is the hardware, the semiconductor, which is the chips who are getting the data. Data, evaluating it, processing it, remembering what you said and storing it somewhere, and you know, through the software, providing you with the answer. So we we carry our smartphones with us everywhere. Nobody can almost live without one now. Right. Right. For better or for worse. For better or for worse. Yeah, that's right. Some people have their whole lives on their phone.
Gilad Luria 2:43
But just a few decades ago that was just A dream or a wonder, because if you look 20-30 years ago, what you currently have in your pocket would take a full room of computing power to achieve the same results.

How does hybrid‑bonding work and why does it create a blind spot for chip makers?

Gilad Luria 2:57
Right. So, in order to get from there to what we have now, is the miniaturizing in the semiconductor industry that was governed for uh several decades but what is known as the Moore's Law that dictates Dictated or hypothesized that the density of transistors, which are the basic component of a chip, will increase twofold every one and a half years. Right. But recently we've reached the the limit of that law. Currently, conductors or transistors are just tens of atoms in size on the wafer, on the chip, and therefore Increasing this density is reached basically what are the physical limits of the technology. So in order to solve this and provide more computing power and more memory and more interconnections and more bandwidth like we all want all the time, that industry is turning to a regime which's called advanced packaging.
Gilad Luria 3:58
Basically, what this means, it can be translation. It into real estate, instead of having a lot of small houses very dense, one next to each other, you start building buildings that more families can live on the same land. And what is happening in the semiconductor business is that instead of just increasing the density on the same level, you build higher. You stack several wafers or several chiplets one on two. top of the other, so you can have more by still using the same real estate, the same footprint, so it can still fit on your computer or on your smartphone. So that's the revolution the industry is going through. And that's the main driver now for the industry.
Unknown 4:43
So moving in the third direction.
Gilad Luria 4:45
That's exactly it. Okay. So how does that relate to what we are doing?

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