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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Okay, I have a really exciting episode today because this could be my new favorite reality show, Amy. Like I am actually, we've gotten to see episode one of Stan's new reality show turned on.
Dirty Sexy Money.
Dirty Sexy Money. And look, when I first saw it, I think there are a million reality shows. When I first saw it, I was like, okay. We'll see. We'll see how it goes, you know. Gold Coast, instead of the Gold Coast, we love it. It's about OnlyFans creators. We love it, you know. High money, high stakes, high drama. But I was like, you know, well, I'm going to come into it with a neutral mindset.
I'm obsessed. After episode one, I watched, usually when it goes to the coming up on, you know, or next time on, I go, I don't want to see it because I go, whatever. I was, every single scene I'm going, what the hell is happening? This show, okay. This show, I actually think is going to be one of my favorites. And we've got one of the amazing women from the show, Chloe with us. Hi, Chloe. Hi.
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Chapter 2: What is the new Aussie reality show that has everyone talking?
Hi, Abby. How are you? Good, babe. Okay. First of all, how are you feeling? Episode one is now out. How are you feeling having this added to your profile now beyond your OnlyFans page?
I mean, it's sort of crazy. Like, it's obviously a completely different... side of all of us to what we have on our OnlyFans page and on our Instagram. It's a lot more unfiltered. It's a real look into all of our personal lives. It's a little bit terrifying, but I'm really excited to show that part.
Yeah, because I think it's really good for people. I mean, there's a lot of stigma around OnlyFans and around sex work as well. And I think it's really good for people to see you as whole people, which sounds so basic. But I think people think that, you know, people who are making OnlyFans content are these like... Yeah. Like I love to fuck. I love to fuck that.
Like, it's like this sick, like totally as some sick, like, Oh, perversion. But you know, there are different sides to everyone. And it's just that you are deciding that this side of you is your career choice. Right.
Absolutely. I think that a lot of people that aren't either in the sex work industry or adjacent to it, like having friends or partners in it, they definitely just think that, you know, we're this one sided, like not this multifaceted person, which is crazy to me because I wouldn't think that about anyone ever.
But the general population does actually need a lot of proof that we are human beings as well.
Yeah. And I think that's why I love reality show formats like this, like where it's following a group of people throughout an entire season rather than competition shows. Although I do love competition shows, but I love that you, I mean, when I watch shows like this, I never really have someone that is a true villain or a true hero. You see the complexities in all the different women.
And I think we see that in the first episode, even. Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah, I think, I mean, I hope without having seen the whole series, I think it'll definitely be that case. Like just throughout filming is no one is black and white. There's so many gray areas. We all have these nuances and different points of views and they're all informed by like our past history and we're all such different people. And it's interesting having people
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Chapter 3: How does Chloe feel about her journey in reality TV?
And so she is at this point where she's like she's looking down on full service sex workers or saying like, well, I never had to be a stripper. And they're on their high horse. I don't know how, but it is it is rife within this community. industry everywhere. Like you'll just, you see, yeah, someone does this, but then they'll look down on someone that does porn.
It's totally hypocritical in my point of view, but yeah, there is definitely some pearl clutching.
Yeah. And it also doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help any of you as OnlyFans creators have any more, I guess, uh, It doesn't help get rid of the stigma if there is also this infighting in between sex workers.
It doesn't help, you know, your oppression as sex workers if there are certain people saying, oh, well, full service sex work is disgusting but I do this or looking down upon stripping or looking down upon whatever element. Do you have conversations like this with those cast members that are having these issues?
Like is there a chance for you to go this isn't helpful or is it just too hard to get through?
I mean, look, I'm someone that like I definitely pick my battles. So if someone is inclined to thinking that way, I usually don't waste my breath. But yeah, look, I definitely like I stuck up for Ruby and the rest of us would have a conversation about, you know, how judgmental and misplaced that judgment is. But I can also zoom out and see that no matter what, who we are and what we're doing.
Like we all have a level of internalized misogyny and that whore phobia and that whorearchy is just that playing out. And that person needs to like go deeper into whatever's going on. At the end of the day, we're all existing inside this like patriarchal system and like, It's impossible.
I think that even me, who's been in the sex work industry for a certain amount of time, it's taken me a long time to work through some internalized beliefs. So everyone's on their own journey. But yeah, I don't have room for people that are going to be judgmental to other sex workers and to other people's personal sex life.
So I think it was really layered because there's two things that play there. And it's just neither of them were fair game.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Chloe share about internalized misogyny?
And I look, I'm very against having specific numbers just because I don't like to glamorize this and because most people on this platform are not making money.
good amount of money um we are the top one percent so we are making I will say like I have made millions but I'm not going to yeah I I do have an issue with some of the cast members that get into the nitty-gritty because I think it's tone deaf um But the numbers are crazy. It is a life changing amount of money. And yeah, it has changed my life. Absolutely.
Amazing. So with the Blue Rose agency, the question that I had, I'm going, what does being an agent for for OnlyFans creators actually entail? Because obviously I have an agent with my influencer stuff and like he does brand deals and sorts out TV appearances and things like that. But what is it like organising collaborations? Is it working in your content with you?
Like what does Quinn, the owner of the agency, what does she, what do they do? Without sounding too like, you know, rude, but I genuinely am like, I'm like what's going on? No, of course.
There's also, you know, in this industry there is like a big stigma around having an agency or like having an agent. So it's good that you ask this. Like it's really honestly no different to what a modelling agency or what your agency would do for you.
Like they are providing emotional support in what might have been otherwise a really isolating situation because like you're just at home with your tripod and So creative direction, just your brand management. One size really doesn't fit all when it comes to marketing your brand in OnlyFans. So they provide so much help with that. Just structure and... I guess. Yeah.
Because we're like running our own business. We need external help and support to be able to do that. You know, they also provide staff. Like I have a filming assistant that comes in, helps me film for all my social media. Otherwise it's just too much. Like I'm sure you understand owning your own thing. You can't go to bed at night and just have it all on you. Like it's, it's insane.
Yeah. No. So it's like an additional support network. Yeah. Yeah.
And like brand management, I would say. And yeah, they organise collabs, bring forward opportunities, all of that kind of thing.
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Chapter 5: What are the moral dilemmas presented in the show?
like it's not that niche I also I feel like Chloe's also a brunette with big tits I'm like but they're fake so apparently I come under another category okay okay so they're both they're both big big tall girls and I'm little so different genre different yeah different genre No, I was with Ruby last night and we were saying that that particular quote is like our sleep paralysis team.
It's so funny.
You stole my spotlight. I was a brunette with big poofs. But yeah, look, I think that the competition aspect of it comes down to each individual. I've never felt in competition with other people because I worked at a club and I learned that
there's so many different forms of like beauty and also ways to make money and someone else's success does not for a second ever take away from my own, but there are women in this industry that do think like that. And yeah, obviously that's very apparent in episode one. I think we all have the fear of like losing relevancy and like,
The income insecurity that comes with any form of sex work is quite scary and something that I'm used to because I've always kind of been around it and then like, oh, we're in COVID now. I'm like not making anything at all. So it is daunting, but I don't know. I think it's just part of it and I've tried to let it drive me to make the most of it.
the opportunities that I have now, knowing very well that I don't want to do this for the next 20 years, but even if I did, I don't know if I actually could.
Yeah. What would you do if you decided to leave tomorrow?
That's such a good question because ultimately I wouldn't leave tomorrow because I'm not ready.
Yeah.
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Chapter 6: How do the women in the show address competition and jealousy?
So Fiji and Darius, he does, he looks exactly like Mia's fiance. And yeah, think she was drunk one night and she's gone up to him and this poor Fijian man like he worked at the resort that we were
staying out and he was just you know folding napkins or something and she was flirting with him and she's like you know if you come to Australia like I'll get you a job I just bought a Range Rover to this guy that is on whatever wage so tone deaf and then she's giving out all her socials And I think but I think the main thing was she's over there doing that.
And then she's coming for Ruby and Ruby's relationship when saying, oh, you know, you're disloyal and all of this, which Ruby's not. She's in a very stable relationship. But I think it's a whole like people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones situation. And, yeah, the farriest subject she would really like to keep under wraps. Like she does not want that to come out at all.
That's her biggest fear.
Well, it's mentioned at the end of the episode and there is a hot mic moment where she is like, I didn't think this was going to be included in the storyline. Right, Amy? I'm remembering that. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, she's like, I didn't think this would be included in the storyline. So I'm going, they're ā There must have been some drama there.
Did you all have an argument or anything about it or was it just noted and then brought up again?
When she was off kind of harassing this man, she'd had a bit to drink and we were sort of like, OK, you know, like this isn't really appropriate. So it wasn't so much a fight. But when she came back and sat down with us, I think we just said, you know, maybe that that wasn't so appropriate. And she got very defensive because she That is just what Mia's like.
And she does try and control a narrative. She does try to control a storyline as per the hot mic. Yeah, it's just very on brand for her. But that is honestly the beginning of... Like, that is nothing in comparison to what unfolds throughout the show. There is so many dramatic scenes and so much drama that unfolds. Like, I actually... I couldn't believe it and I was living it.
Yeah. Can you give me any hints as to what is going to happen next? That was my final question is what can we expect because this is episode one. It seemed all so like nicey-nicey and then the last 15 minutes of the episode I went, oh, this is layered, complex, friendships, competitiveness, money's involved. Like it is crazy. And also like a lot of conversations about like looks and
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