Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, every single triple-trumper. I don't care if now you don't like him anymore. You can do what, Pumps? Oh, I'm sorry if you had it with. Okay, what I've had it with, I'm going to classify as predatory shopping.
And what I mean by that is I have noticed a real uptick when I shop online and I really look at something. I look at like what the material is and all the things. But I don't buy it. Then like 12 hours later, I get a text with a picture of what I was looking at that says, this would look great on you. Or are you still thinking about this? Or texting your phone? Texting my phone.
And I don't put my phone number and stuff in. Really? But when you have an account, they have all that information for shipping. This has happened to me with three different vendors in the last, I'd say, 30 days.
And so for me, as somebody who has a history of buying shit that sucks off Instagram, if they were to catch me in a weak moment, even after I've decided this is too expensive or I don't need this, I could be lured in by these texts. So I think it's predatory. Of course it's predatory. I'm a weak person.
Chapter 2: What experiences led to the discussion about predatory shopping?
So when you keep sending me something, I really, really put a lot of thought into buying and I don't know how to unsubscribe from it. This is the thing. Remember when I was upset at Zillow because I was looking at the inside of people's houses like a psycho, right? And then Zillow's emailing me all the time like, hey, that house is da-da-da-da. And I'm like, what the fuck? This was private.
And that's the thing about your shopping. That's private. You don't want them contacting you about it. What if you're shopping for a vibrator? Right. You don't want to text, follow up. You're in a meeting with people and it opens up. Angie, your vibrator is still available. Like some of that stuff just needs to be private. Like they can't follow up.
That's not, shouldn't be their idea to follow up. That should be your idea to follow up. I agree. And it keeps happening. I just think it's weird that I've just noticed this uptick in it happening. Well, because here's the thing, all of the surveillance online stuff is just going to get worse and worse and worse. Like our privacy is,
Our online privacy is completely eroding and these tech oligarchs have all of it. All of it. And we're too busy playing patty cake, the democratic leadership, with kinks to do anything about it. You're right. That's terrible. All right, let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with these MAGA monkeys in Japan that are bullying punch.
I did not think that Japan had a MAGA problem specifically with primates, but I've been watching a lot of footage online, a lot. And it's very evident to me that this one particular monkey is a full-blown Japanese MAGA monkey because Punch is just a baby. He has his mama that's an IKEA stuffed animal. That's all he has because his real mother, probably MAGA, abandoned him.
And then this big MAGA monkey is like he's ā Punch goes over and they're like, hey, I'm a monkey too. And the monkey just like bullies him and throws him all around. And then he has to go get his fake mama because his MAGA deadbeat mama abandoned him. And only a MAGA monkey would bully a baby. Absolutely. And so then he's running around hiding from all these MAGA monkeys.
And I just, I can't stop watching this monkey, but I'm seeing some great things happening. I'm seeing some true things. Patriot monkeys rise up and take care of him. I saw somebody helping him recently, but I can't quit with this punch stuff. I watched my whole feed. It used to be exactly what I wanted. My For You page was exactly what I wanted. I'd built it brick by brick.
It was tennis shots of my favorite tennis players, French Bulldog content, interior design content, and travel. no political stuff in my For You page, none, not on Instagram. The entire For You page now is punch the monkey. So the more I get it, the more into it I am. I know the personalities at the zoo. I know which accounts to follow for an update. I know people that have
gone to the zoo, waited in line to get a ticket to go see the zoo. I've thought about going to the zoo in Japan if I didn't have to stay here and fight for democracy. But I'm just, this MAGA monkey problem in Japan is just something I've had it from top to bottom with. And I call on the Japanese government to, these monkeys need to be identified with their red MAGA hats.
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Chapter 3: How do the hosts feel about online privacy and targeted advertising?
Fuck you. 56. 56 is a lot older than me. I've decided like, you know what? I do like the flattery. I'm going to own it. I dig it. And you know what's great about us? We can accept the flattery and the criticism rolls off us like water off a duck's back. All right, let's read the next review. Oh, another five-star review from Wren Marie, one of the best podcasts out there.
I am obsessed with your show, the wit, the honesty. I love how you just hold space to express the frustrations we feel today and even lovingly push back with each other at times when it's needed. I go back and forth between I have news in this show that helps me deal with my own rage. I appreciate you both sharing your stories and your grace regarding disagreement and criticism.
Keep up the important work. That's what I have to say. That's fantastic. The whole thing that we're going through right now is... really abusive what the federal government is doing. It is. And, you know, I think that when you think about a family or you think about a relationship, you always thought, okay, emotional safety is something that I value.
At least for me, I've always valued emotional safety. And I've tried to strive when I didn't know what that was. I got into therapy to learn what that was to define it. Like emotional safety should be paramount.
Chapter 4: What is the story behind the MAGA monkeys bullying Punch?
It should be a priority. So being in relationships that are transparent, that are honest and that have value like that is one of the top tier things that I seek in relationships. And so you never really thought as an American living in a superpower that you really had to worry about that.
And I say that as a white woman, as a white woman, I didn't have to worry about emotional safety with my government. So the eye-opening thing for me has been, and this started before Trump, my youngest son played AAU basketball. And I became really close with a lot of the other basketball mothers.
And these are Black women that had to work two jobs, that had a different narrative they had to tell their sons about. about how to interact with police or how to interact in society or what they could be wearing when they're walking from their house to 7-Eleven. So that was a real eye-opening thing for me, the disparity in experience.
And I've always been open-minded and I've always been anti-racist and I've always been progressive. But bonding with other women when raising my kids that came from a different place that I came from It's one of the most valuable things that ever happened. And I love these women. And I love their kids. And I witnessed other parents be racist towards their kids.
Excuse the racism of other white parents towards their kids. And This experience now that we are experiencing white Americans from the federal government where we see Renee Nicole Good get shot and we see Alex Pretty get shot. It's so jarring, but it's not jarring for black America.
And one of the biggest points, I think, coming out of this, if we really get structurally into it, is we didn't value the safety of all Americans, right? And that is on us. The Black community was telling us for a long time, we are getting over-policed. Nobody's enriching or investing in our communities. There's a disparity in sentencing.
There is structural racism in the court system, policing, financial lenders, et cetera. And we would go, okay, I'm going to go vote Democrat, and that's going to solve it. But the lesson in all of this is when you leave one group vulnerable ā You leave everybody vulnerable. And those white people that think they're safe in MAGA, particularly white Christian men, my favorite is you.
Because they tried to kill Mike Pence. They tried to kill Mike fucking Pence, who had a pet rabbit and calls his wife mother. And so the biggest lesson for white people that we have to atone for is not listening to our black brothers and sisters in this country and all the racism that is allowed, the silence, the silent racism that always goes unchecked.
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Chapter 5: How do the hosts relate the behavior of MAGA monkeys to societal issues?
He was annoyed that I didn't reply to an email he sent on Saturday morning until Monday at 9 a.m. And he was especially frustrated that I refused to join a, quote, team bonding Zoom meeting that was scheduled for 7 p.m. my time, which is 1 p.m. his time. He gave me the usual speech about how in this company, we go the extra mile and that if I want to grow, I need to be more available.
I had to give him a bit of a reality check. I looked at him in the eye over Zoom and told him that in the Netherlands, If you can't finish your work by 5 p.m., it doesn't mean you're dedicated. It means you are inefficient or understaffed. I told him that I am neither.
I also reminded him that contacting me outside of working hours for non-emergencies is actually frowned upon here and that my contract is for 40 hours, not 40 hours plus nights and weekends. He tried to threaten me with a performance improvement plan. I immediately forwarded the email to our Dutch HR representative. She literally laughed when she read it and told me to ignore him.
She said she would have a, quote, chat with him about local labor laws. And then, of course, since then, the boss hasn't sent an email since 5 p.m. I love this so much because I, my work, I'm a, I'm a big worker during work hours. I always tell people I'm available during work hours. I put on my schedule if I have a workout, but I wake up and I go to work all day long. I love to work.
I love my job. My career has been the central, outside of my children, the central, most important,
part of my adulthood i value it and so many of my uh adult identities are attached to my career however when i'm off work i'm off work i rarely rarely text people after hours if i text an employee early in the morning i started off with my apologies for texting so early i try to be very cognizant of that and in my interior design world i have clients that will group text me
And my head designer for my design firm, they'll group text us at 6 a.m. about something arbitrary about their interior design project. And I go out of the group text and leave my employee out of it and then respond to my client, hello and good morning. I removed blank from this text message because I don't like to bug my employees at 6 a.m.,
Also, could you think maybe if you want to email us, if you want to contact us this morning, could you possibly putting an email? I'm available. I'm an early riser. If you need to sort through this right now. And then typically if you draw a boundary like that, they will respond. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. Yes, I'll put it into email, but I try to be respectful.
Of that and that American idea, like I think it's your son, doesn't he work something like 90 hours a week or something? 90 or 100 hours a week. And a lot of it, I was seeing him in that because I talk to him all the time and I say.
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Chapter 6: What are the hosts' thoughts on the current state of emotional safety in America?
You're not... I think you're going to have it with us, caller. I was going to say, I'm the loser. I am too. I get so tired of birthdays. And I don't, I'm uncomfortable with a bunch. Here's the thing, what happens with a birthday now because of the smartphone. Somebody posts on their story, happy birthday, Jennifer. blah, blah. And then you're like, okay, I like it.
And then you think, well, I probably need to reshare it because that was really nice of them. So then you share it. And then the texts start in people. I, I, the last time I had a birthday, I had a text stream from somebody and it was like the last seven years, the only texts that were happy birthday. Thank you. Exclamation point the next year. Happy birthday. Thank you. Happy birthday. Thank you.
And I just, I get, I appreciate that the caller wants to celebrate birthdays and that you would think we're freaks. You get to have that. I am tired of fucking celebrating shit. I am so, American culture over celebrates shit. Nothing is like the person who I have the seven year relationship, happy birthday. We don't need to be talking. Right.
If for seven years, all we've done is you've trolled my Instagram and found out it's my birthday. Really nice to say happy birthday, but if we don't have anything to say to each other in that time period, let's call it. Right. Doesn't hurt my feelings. Let's call it. And I just am not a big... birthday celebratory.
Now I, when my children were little big, I wanted them to have parties, cakes, party favors, their friends, the cheesier, the better. Like I was very big into, because a kid should feel their birthday. They should celebrate it. But now that my kids are in college, like it's, I'm like, let's go to dinner. Or do you want me to get pizza at the house? And then I get a cake and that is it.
That is the end of the road. Yeah, I am one of those people that she hates. Now I will say this. If I have a close friend that loves their birthday, I do all the birthday stuff and I do it because I love them and they love their birthday and it makes them happy. I'm happy to do that. For me personally, the less fanfare, the better.
Like my idea of celebrating Mother's Day was you take the kids away from me. That's celebrate. My idea of a happy birthday is to not have to get up and go out to dinner and do all that. So, and I just had one and it, you just feel pressure like, okay, I have to make plans with this person and this person. And it's so nice.
But I feel like, and this is going to make her hate me and not want to be my friend, but every single person on the planet has a birthday. Every single day, there are millions of people that have birthdays. Yours really isn't that special. It's great to celebrate. It's just another day. It's just another day. I don't usually say that, but I don't feel a big need to... Celebrate my birthday.
I don't say that, but I also don't like if people are like, let's go together for lunch for your birthday. And I was like, I'm good. I really, really appreciate it. I get kind of uncomfortable. I just rather go to lunch because we're going to lunch. I don't want to go to lunch with the focus being my birthday. I just, and I'm not a big, like,
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