Water From A Deep Well | Resilience E12

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What is the overall purpose of the Water From a Deep Well series?

Yinka Dawson 0:01
Hello and welcome. My name is Yinka Dawson and I'm the host of Practice in the Way with John Marcoma. A podcast featuring teachings and conversations with John Mark and other voices to help us journey into deeper life with God in the modern world. Today we're continuing our series Water from a Deep Well with John Mark and Dr. Gerald Sitzer, which explores the rich history of Christian spirituality and how we can learn from and practice the wisdom of early followers of Jesus in their unique eras. In this episode, John Mark and Doctor Sitzer uncover one quality that stands out in their journey through two thousand years of Christian history. From the lives of saints and martyrs to missionaries and laity, the virtue of resilience.
Yinka Dawson 0:45
Here is John Mark.
John Mark Comer 0:47
Welcome back to the final episode of Water from a Deep Well. Doctor Sitzer, it has been a wild ride not just through two thousand years of church history, but of Christian spirituality. We've covered a lot of ground, and now to tie off our set of conversations, we want to find a bit of a through line. That runs all the way from the New Testament up to the present day. In your closing chapter, you wrote a new chapter for the second edition of Water from a Deep Well. You write this The martyrs call us to proclaim Jesus as Lord. And the desert saints to fight against the world, the flesh, and the devil. The early church challenges us to create a community of belonging for broken, displaced, disconnected people.
John Mark Comer 1:40
Medieval monks invite us to abide by healthy rhythms, mendicants to imitate the life of Christ, and mystics to seek union with God. The reformers urge us to study the Word of God, evangelicals to surrender our lives to it, and missionaries to proclaim it to the world. The stories of these saints are at our disposal to enlarge, enrich, and warn us there is more, they tell us, so much more. I love that. That's good writing. And as we've been tracing the spirituality of the church for two thousand years to end our journey, we want to focus a little bit less on a spirituality as much as on a virtue or like a moral muscle. In the Christian kind of muscular armory, what you call resilience. Now tell us, of all I was surprised actually, when you decided to add uh a new chapter to the second edition.
John Mark Comer 2:36
I thought you'd write about Pentecostalism. I thought this is the the last great kind of move of the spirit or spirituality of our day, but instead you chose to write about resilience. Why is that?
Gerald Sittser 2:48
Because we need it, that's why, and we've always needed it. Um resilience is uh kind of a modern term that really goes back to the uh ancient virtue of fortitude. And fortitude includes kind of two different things. One is the courage to do something that's risky, dangerous, or threatening in some way. I am a Christian. Yeah. The other one is persistence. Or what I like to call like a patience and guts. Grit and guts. Grit and guts. So it's making the decision to do something you don't really want to do, but you know is right, and then stay at it for the long haul.
John Mark Comer 3:31
Grit
Gerald Sittser 3:31
and guts. That is what you
John Mark Comer 3:33
mean by resilience.
Gerald Sittser 3:34
Fortitude. Oh or courage and endurance would be fancier terms to use. And um we've always needed that particular quality. Uh more recently, uh a lot of studies have shown that our modern world, especially in the West, is not developing that so well.
John Mark Comer 3:56
Yeah, it's decreasing, not increasing.
Gerald Sittser 3:59
Interesting
John Mark Comer 4:00
tied to comfort, right? Safety, security. The more stable your life is, ironically, the less resilient of a person you become.
Gerald Sittser 4:09
And um Uh scholars uh show that resilience starts small and when you're young.
Unknown 4:17
Mm.
Gerald Sittser 4:18
А є трост індусituзвердис relative сфеті форю. Where you have to develop resilience in the face of difficulty or opposition. So let me give you an example. Uh, you've got a child in the third grade. And She's not getting along with her teacher, who's not very nice to her for some reason. There's just a clash of personalities. Now you as a parent have a couple of choices. You listen to your child. She complains. Teacher never does anything that's right and so on and so forth.

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