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Kenty - Paul Kent NRL Podcast

Abdo Quits, Players Revolt & Ref Turmoil

25 May 2026

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Chapter 1: Why did Andrew Abdo resign as NRL CEO?

1.82 - 9.87 Kenty

G'day, welcome to Kentie Blitz, your daily hit of NRL news. And Kentie, massive news today with the CEO of the NRL resigning.

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9.89 - 36.311 Paul Kent

Yeah, big news wasn't it? Took everyone by surprise, look. I think the timing of it has really stumped everybody. We did know last year, let's remember, that he was looking around. If you remember, news broke last August, I think it was, that he had gone and interviewed for a job at TEG, which is a worldwide sports promotion company. He didn't tell Peter Vlani's that, which I found fascinating.

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36.852 - 56.478 Paul Kent

And then obviously the news broke today, which I don't think it's been overly well received in NRL headquarters, but he'll be, it'll all be smiling faces as we record this. We know there's a press conference on this afternoon and they'll be, Yeah, smiling faces and slaps on the back and everyone congratulating each other.

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56.839 - 70.133 Kenty

Kenny, we normally record this later on in the afternoon, but we've got a bit of big mail that we want to drop a little bit later. So stay watching the show. But we're going to talk about Abdo at the start because he started his tenure 2020. 2020.

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Chapter 2: What were the reactions to Abdo's resignation from players and officials?

70.813 - 95.487 Paul Kent

As the CEO. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he was a chief commercial officer at the NRL before that. I didn't have a lot to do with him at that point. I had a little bit to do with him. But when he took over from Greenberg in 2020, when you look back on... what he has done in the game. And you look at his resume now, it's going to look pretty impressive. Under his leadership, Vegas started.

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96.247 - 123.145 Paul Kent

If you remember, 2020 was the COVID years, and the NRL was in a very vulnerable position financially. Since then, they don't tell anybody this, but there's $120 million sitting in the bank now. I think they had about $40 million back then, which was not going to be enough to get them through the NRL season at the time. But they've also got assets. They've bought the Caxton Hotel.

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124.748 - 128.335 Paul Kent

They've bought hotels around the place.

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Chapter 3: Who is the likely successor to Andrew Abdo as NRL CEO?

128.315 - 156.296 Paul Kent

a lot of bricks and mortar to basically shore up the game's financial position. Now a lot of people will credit that to Peter Volandes. They've very much gone through this the whole way though as a partnership of Volandes and Abdo. I call him Volandes' secretary quite a bit because He is, Peter, as we all know, is very hands-on, very heavy on his own governance of how it all gets done.

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156.977 - 162.25 Paul Kent

And Abdo has basically been the guy that basically goes out and does all the donkey work.

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162.971 - 176.929 Kenty

We'll get to PBL in a minute. Can't he... If you look at his CV, right, and it's an impressive CV in terms of what he's done for the game recently. You know, coming out of COVID, the game survived and has flourished. Yep. It's expanded.

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177.59 - 179.111 Paul Kent

Yeah. Big broadcast deal came out of it.

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179.131 - 179.612 Kenty

Big broadcast deal.

Chapter 4: What were the findings of the leaked player poll regarding game enjoyment?

179.632 - 184.617 Kenty

Another big broadcast deal coming. Vegas, obviously a lot of expansion.

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184.657 - 186.559 Paul Kent

Looking to buy the English Super League.

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186.579 - 189.902 Kenty

Super League. But you have never really been a big fan. Why is that?

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190.943 - 191.464 Unknown

Oh, man.

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194.279 - 226.684 Paul Kent

I don't think the partnership between him and Valen is a 50-50 partnership, to be honest. For example, I've known Peter quite a long time. You went to his wedding. Yes, I did, in the 90s. So I've known Peter quite well since then. Look, there's a lot of sympathy around the NRL clubs. for Abdo because they sit in chief executive meetings and see how Peter treats him, basically.

227.245 - 229.629 Paul Kent

And that's why – Andrew, why haven't we done that?

Chapter 5: How do players feel about the impact of referees on game outcomes?

229.669 - 255.259 Paul Kent

Well, mate, get onto it. You know what I mean? That sort of stuff. So how much – look, I don't really want to come and shitpot the job he's done. Look, he goes with my best wishes, okay? But – I think Vegas is Peter's idea and then Abdo goes and does all the work and gets all the hard, does all the hard work, gets all the groundwork done and Peter has to come in and finish it.

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255.279 - 274.683 Paul Kent

We know when the broadcast deals were being negotiated that basically they'd reached a bit of a stalemate, Abdo and the broadcasters. It took the Lannies to come in then and get the deal done. When the CBA with the players, the collective bargaining agreement was being done with the players, once again they reached a stalemate. Clinton Newton and Abdo could not go any further.

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274.723 - 285.575 Paul Kent

It was all about to blow up. Then Valantis came in and got it done. So I think he's very good at the numbers game. He's very good at that commercial side of it.

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Chapter 6: What financial changes occurred in the NRL during Abdo's tenure?

285.675 - 311.71 Paul Kent

Whether he's a true CEO, I kind of doubt, because Valantis has always been the leader since he's been there. He now, we believe, we're led to believe that he's going to Tennis Australia. Be interesting to see how entrepreneurial they get. Because that's been a hallmark of this NRL era. It has been that. One, the strong financial position, but two, how they're just looking to expand the game.

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311.77 - 325.029 Paul Kent

Now, Abdo, I think he's a great lieutenant. I think he's a great 2IC. I just don't quite know if he's a... the CEO that we're led to believe.

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325.049 - 336.887 Kenty

It's got to be difficult if you're Abdo and you're faced with such a hard or such a strong chairman, right, who has all the ideas. Yeah, it is hard. It must be difficult for him.

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336.907 - 337.648 Paul Kent

It is hard.

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Chapter 7: What are the biggest challenges facing rugby league today?

338.009 - 356.978 Paul Kent

Look, the other thing that doesn't get spoken about a lot, Warren, and doesn't really get known outside of those who care, but there's a high turnover of executives in the NRL. And I've spoken to people around the game who constantly wonder to me, why don't people talk about this?

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356.998 - 371.082 Paul Kent

Now, to be fair, most fans don't care that the chief commercial officer's left or the head of marketing's left and those sorts of things. But internally, it sounds like a very difficult place to work.

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371.365 - 398.2 Paul Kent

And that's why there's such a high turnover of people who are appointed ahead of their department, but get micromanaging from up above to the point where they just can no longer find it workable and end up leaving. And I think that includes Abdo, to be fair. I think, as I said, he interviewed for a job last year on The Quiet and got leaked out. So we knew he...

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398.18 - 423.073 Paul Kent

things haven't been peachy the whole way through and i think in this tennis australia that said though if he's going as a ceo of tennis australia as we're led to believe he'll probably double his pay packet and have a sport that really is a truly international sport and he'll be ahead of that run the australian atman the fall um grand slams uh so he it is a very big job so well done for him for

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423.053 - 442.182 Paul Kent

essentially capitalizing on the good work that's been done at the NRL. And they have shown tremendous growth and entrepreneurial spirit in the six years that he's been there. And he's capitalized on that in a job now that's going to be a very big job. Me? I like something a little hot.

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Chapter 8: How has the NRL responded to criticism from players and fans?

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469.527 - 477.86 Kenty

Let's talk about his likely replacement, Kenty, because PVO will step into the role, which indicates that they didn't see it coming.

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478.781 - 499.684 Paul Kent

Well, he's going to step in short term, which is what happened when John Grant... It's happened before. John Grant took on the executive chairman role when Dave Smith left the job. That was a disaster. Why is that? Oh, because... I don't think John was a CEO-type material.

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501.025 - 525.25 Paul Kent

Yes, he had success in private business, but I think that set in place a whole range of problems for the game as far as – I didn't like the way the independent commission back then, which he was the head of, was running the game. Just things like, if you remember, West Tigers were in financial trouble at the time. They put Marina Go in there, who had no clue about – rugby league.

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525.35 - 550.952 Paul Kent

Any criticism of that was an attack on women. Any criticisms of the game was, oh, you just don't like it. We're taking it. I'll give you a good example. When they first sat down, the commission took charge. What year was this? This was, I think, 2014. I think the commission began roughly around then. Anyway, it might have been 12. Anyway, John Grant...

552.012 - 577.125 Paul Kent

got all the club bosses in, CEOs and chairman, and basically told them there's a new boss in town. Rugby league's never been able to make money and we're going to show you how to make money. And at the back of the room with his arms crossed like this was a fella called Nick Politis who took a car yard in Bondi and conquered the world

578.81 - 604.855 Paul Kent

is now worth $4 billion or something like that, who'd been involved with the Roosters for the best part of 30 years at that stage and knew how difficult it was to turn a profit in rugby league. And when he said that, Nick turned to a couple of other CEOs who were around him and said, this will be interesting. And they wasted extraordinary amounts of money.

605.777 - 630.841 Paul Kent

Limousines wherever they went, up the front of the plane wherever they went, first class hotels wherever they went, and didn't really do a good job of negotiating the broadcast deal. Whereas this current model with Volantis and Abdo, they've done a very good job of milking every dollar they can out of the broadcasters and also just booming sponsorship deals. So they've done a very good job.

630.861 - 654.464 Paul Kent

They actually had an understanding, I think, of what the game was worth. much more than the previous board, even though some still exist from the previous board, and certainly the previous leadership of the board, and they've turned the game into a financial powerhouse, which it is now. He's responsible for a good part of that too because he's done a lot of work in that area.

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