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Kermode & Mayo’s Take

Does Mark think BACKROOMS is a-maze-ing?

28 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 6.182 Simon Mayo

Before we begin, a quick reminder that you can become a Vanguardista and get an extra episode every Thursday.

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6.262 - 23.895 Mark Kermode

Including bonus reviews. Extra viewing suggestions. Viewing recommendations at home and in cinemas. Plus your film and non-film questions answered as best we can in Questions Shmestians. You can get all that extra stuff via Apple Podcasts or head to extratakes.com for non-fruit related devices.

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23.875 - 39.873 Simon Mayo

There's never been a better time to become a Vanguardista. Free offer now available wherever you get your podcasts. And if you're already a Vanguardista, we salute you. Now, Mark, you were telling me the other day about this Saley eSIM app.

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Chapter 2: What are the highlights of the Power Ballad review?

40.074 - 49.209 Simon Mayo

Which one was that? Well, the one I just install on my phone before I go abroad so that I can save loads of money on roaming and data charges when I'm there.

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49.509 - 64.345 Mark Kermode

Ah, yes, it's dead simple. Install the Saley app on your device and choose a data plan. There are multiple plans in over 200 destinations available at some of the best rates online. Then follow the instructions on the app to install the eSIM and it'll be activated instantly on arrival.

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64.392 - 66.736 Simon Mayo

So I don't have to buy a new SIM card when I get there?

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66.956 - 74.167 Mark Kermode

Nope, there's no queuing at a dodgy airport kiosk. A Saley eSIM only needs to be installed once, and then you use the same one for each country you visit.

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74.668 - 77.653 Simon Mayo

Great. Does it let me skip all the other queues too?

77.933 - 90.132 Mark Kermode

Well, funnily enough, with Saley Ultra, you can enjoy VIP travel perks like airport lounge access, fast-track services, priority support, advanced online security, and much more. You'll be telling me we've got a voucher code next. Oh, yes.

90.152 - 123.059 Unknown

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Chapter 3: What insights does James Graham share about Dear England?

123.82 - 150.998 Unknown

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166.823 - 188.798 Simon Mayo

Today's program, hello, by the way, is that battle which many people have fought this week between quietness and coolness. And I have just shut the door in my home little studio here, which means that as we progress through the show, Mark, I will be turning pews.

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190.533 - 212.929 Mark Kermode

Are you cool there? I'm fine. I mean, actually, because I'm in my bespoke studio downstairs in the chapel in Cornwall. Although upstairs on the roof, there are several people banging nails in because the roof work is still going on. But actually, it's quite cool because it's an old Methodist chapel. So they're built with, you know, that stone that just actually stays cool. So I'm fine.

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213.049 - 216.715 Mark Kermode

I'm sorry that you're sweltering. I know how hot it is upstairs in your house.

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217.195 - 236.436 Simon Mayo

Amazing. it's like it's a whole new country upstairs, it has to be said. But I'm sort of halfway up, and halfway up the stairs is the stair where I sit. There isn't any other stair quite like it. Anyway, but I am doing a show in shorts today, which is really not kind of a good thing.

236.476 - 243.945 Simon Mayo

You know, you should never go to work in shorts, but I feel as though people will understand my personal circumstances here.

244.364 - 255.154 Mark Kermode

Can I tell you an uplifting, well, a story? I'll be quite quick, okay? Is it uplifting or not? Well, I think it is. I don't know whether you remember, but I used to wear a signet ring.

Chapter 4: How does Mark review Backrooms and its significance?

255.474 - 274.371 Mark Kermode

I had this signet ring that I wore all the time and it was my grandfather's signet ring. And when I was a kid, he used to let me put it on my thumb because he wore it on his little finger. He used to put it on my thumb and I would, because I was so impressed by it. Anyway, after my grandfather died, the signet ring was left to me and I wore it ever since I was a kid.

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274.351 - 287.211 Mark Kermode

And it's one of my favorite things. And about seven months ago, I lost it. I had it adjusted because it was slightly too small and my hands had got larger, amazingly. And I lost it.

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Chapter 5: What themes are explored in the Tuner review?

287.692 - 314.024 Mark Kermode

And I was pretty sure I knew how I'd lost it and it had come off in water and it was gone. And I was really kind of upset about it, but I also did the thing about, okay, fine, there's nothing you can do. It's gone, it's gone, it's gone. Anyway, last week we had a car in the yard that had been sitting there for ages and ages that we finally had to sell. And somebody came along and towed it away.

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314.625 - 335.806 Mark Kermode

And there was just like leaves and muck and everything under it. And the good lady professor, her outdoors, was sweeping up the leaves under the car. And she found my grandfather's ring. Wow. It must have come off when I was fixing the exhaust. And I literally feel like it's come back to me. Because in my head, I had completely got used to the fact that I had it.

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Chapter 6: What unique experiences does Mark share about his personal life?

335.826 - 354.536 Mark Kermode

How long was it gone for? Six months. And it was literally in a load of leaves that she was sweeping up and she was sweeping them out onto the thing. So she could have not seen it. She could easily, if it was literally sitting there under the car, it must've come off when I was doing work on the car and, and I had anyway, so there it is.

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355.176 - 358.341 Mark Kermode

I have it back and I can't, I can't tell you how happy it's made me.

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360.042 - 370.535 Simon Mayo

In that spirit, we're going to have to resume our hunt for our missing Rembrandt, just in case. That's right, I forgot about that. It's fallen down the cracks somewhere. Just refresh the listener's memory.

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Chapter 7: How does the episode address the cultural impact of football?

371.416 - 388.918 Simon Mayo

Oh, well, we had a question, it was a question smashed in, what have you lost that's upset you or something like that? And there is this, you know, it may well turn out to be absolutely nothing, but a friend of the good lady's ceramicist, her indoors friend,

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390.704 - 403.178 Simon Mayo

His former partner was an art dealer who many years ago gave the good lady ceramicists her indoors, like a drawing on a sheet of A4, which looked pretty ancient.

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403.833 - 428.136 Simon Mayo

followed it away and a few years ago we were in amsterdam we went to the rembrandt museum and there's a series of his illustrations and it looks exactly like the one that our art dealer friend gave to him so he came back to look for it thinking no i don't think it can be and we can't find it anywhere so so so that's it so somewhere in the house there might be one or tentatively he might have been done by this guy and it's worth like tub and tape me

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428.217 - 435.73 Mark Kermode

Well, I can tell you for a fact, it wasn't under the car. So I'm sorry about that. No. All right. But that's very good. When you find something like that, that is just amazing.

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Chapter 8: What final thoughts do Mark and Simon share about the films reviewed?

436.031 - 454.462 Mark Kermode

It was so thrilling. And she did the thing, but I came in and I was grumpy because I can't remember what was going on. I was grumpy because I was doing something. And she just said, hold out your hand, close your eyes, hold out your hand. And I did. And it was like... It's like that folk song in which there's the woman who throws the engagement ring into the sea.

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454.843 - 469.533 Mark Kermode

And then years later, she's working in a fish shop and she slices a fish open and the engagement ring falls out. It was literally like that level of magic. I'm so glad to have it back. Do you have only her word for it?

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469.573 - 479.293 Simon Mayo

Because it could be that she could have pawned it and then for six months, and then she made some money, then got it back and then just handed it to you.

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479.313 - 489.173 Mark Kermode

I used to have this musical notes jumper that I thought was very rockabilly and she thought was very horrible. And then I couldn't find it for ages and I wrongly accused her of having hidden it.

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489.473 - 508.536 Simon Mayo

What parent has not done something similar to one of their offspring has just got some terrible, terrible trousers or shirt. No, I put it in the wash. I haven't seen where it is and it's right at the bottom underneath the towels. Anyway, on the show, as we slowly heat up... Well, Mark doesn't, but I certainly will. What are you talking about?

508.576 - 528.93 Mark Kermode

Packed show. We have reviews of Tuna. You interviewed Leo Woodall last week. Power Ballads, which is the new film by John Carney, of whom I'm a big fan. Backrooms, a creepy psychological horror based on a viral series. And Dear England, on that there BBC iPlayer and television, which brings us to our special guest...

528.91 - 539.255 Simon Mayo

Yes, he's James Graham, one of the most prolific and well-regarded playwrights in the UK. So nice to talk to a writer. James Graham will be along. And in take two, Mark, what's going on?

539.656 - 545.991 Mark Kermode

The directorial feature debut from Kristen Scott Thomas, My Mother's Wedding and Fairyland, which is produced by Sophia Coppola.

546.832 - 566.086 Simon Mayo

You can get Take Two with no more ads by heading to our Patreon page where you'll find all kinds of loveliness. An email from Sophie in Leeds. Warwick Alumnus 2007. Dear Tossall Flats and Hume Crescents. Very good. Last week, Simon mentioned a mite of trouble that University Radio Warwick got into regarding submarines.

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