SERIAL KILLER: Ed Kemper Pt. 1 with Andrea Gunning of Betrayal Weekly
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Hi, listeners, it's Vanessa. Before today's episode, I want to tell you about another show I think you'll love. Crime House and A&E are teaming up on the podcast version of the famous true crime series, The First 48. Each week, Carter Roy takes you inside a landmark homicide case. The interrogations, the dead ends, and the breakthroughs in the critical first 48 hours. Listen to and follow The First 48 every Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Some people have a keen sense of human nature. They understand people's motives, fears, and behavioral patterns. Many use that trait for good. They show their loved ones support, set their employees up for success, or simply avoid anyone with toxic tendencies. At the same time, some use their people skills for selfish reasons. They get a sense of someone's tendencies and exploit them, whether it's for money, sex, their own personal validation, or something else. Ed Kemper was one of those people, except he didn't just use others to get ahead. He used them to commit some of the most shocking crimes America has ever seen and reshaped what we thought we knew about the killer mind.
The human mind is powerful. It shapes how we think, feel, love, and hate. But sometimes it drives people to commit the unthinkable. This is Serial Killers and Murderous Minds, a Crime House original. I'm Vanessa Richardson.
And I'm forensic psychologist Dr. Tristan Ingalls. And for the next two episodes, Vanessa and I are thrilled to welcome a very special guest, Andrea Gunning, host of the Betrayal Weekly podcast. Thanks for having me. Of course.
We're happy to have you. We're thrilled. For everyone listening, if you're not following Betrayal Weekly, make sure to go do it now. Every week, Andrea shares firsthand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. It's an absolute must listen, and I make sure to catch every episode.
Same here. Andrea, we love how you approach your cases, and we are especially excited to have you on for these episodes because you worked on a documentary on Ed Kemper called Kemper on Kemper.
Yes, that's right. I work for Glass Entertainment Group, and we produced a documentary for Oxygen a few years back about Ed Kemper called Kemper on Kemper. And we unpacked his crimes through his own perspective, using his own words from his interviews with law enforcement.
Amazing. We can't wait to get your insights on this case over the next two episodes. Andrea will introduce you to Ed Kemper, then be sure to stick around at the end of part two for an extended conversation between Andrea and Dr. Engels as they break down what makes this case so fascinating and absolutely terrifying. Before I hand it off, I want to mention that Crime House exists because of listeners like you. Want even more? Join Crime House Plus and get both parts of every story dropped on the same Monday, completely ad-free. No waiting three days for part two.
Who is Ed Kemper and why is his case the focus of this episode?
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As we get started, be advised that this episode contains discussion of rape, murder, necrophilia, and animal violence. So please listen with care. Today, Vanessa and Dr. Engels begin their deep dive into Ed Kemper, one of the most notorious serial killers in American history. In 1970s California, Ed murdered at least six young female hitchhikers, until finally turning his rage on the person who tormented him most, his own mother. And as Vanessa goes through the story, Dr. Engels will be talking about things like why a childhood defined by ridicule can manifest in violence, how incarceration in early adulthood can impact development, why some killers use complex post-mortem rituals to prolong the thrill.
And as always, they'll be asking the question, what makes a killer?
Violence was ingrained in Ed Kemper from the moment he came into the world.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–3:31
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Who is Ed Kemper and why is his case the focus of this episode?
3:31–26:40
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How did Ed Kemper’s childhood and family dynamics shape his early behavior?
26:40–33:19
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What does forensic psychology say about how childhood trauma affects violent behavior?
33:19–50:40
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