Edith Ubuntu Chan: Beyond Seeing [King Hero Interview]
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Why does the episode start with technical difficulties and a delayed guest appearance?
Hello and welcome to the King Heroes Dream Podcast. My name is Beth Martins. If you're new to the channel, it's June 8, 2026. We're still here. Oh my goodness. So welcome to you that have already joined. Come say hello in the chat. Edith is not here. I'm starting to wonder if we had some kind of a mix-up, maybe time zone kind of thing. So bear with me. I'm here with you. So you can chat with me. Boy, there's a lot going on. Hello, Mike New. Nice to see you. How the heck is it going? How's your summer going? I'm going to confess I'm in a bit of shock right now. And Ms. Beautiful Michelle is in the room saying hello to beautiful souls. I'm so glad. Let's see, what is the fastest way to send a smoke signal to our guest?
If you're not familiar, Dr. Edith Ubuntu-Chan, I got to meet her in Confluence this year in person. She's been on this channel a couple of times already, which was really lovely. And I guess I just have to send her an email. See if she's having any trouble. Hmm. And I'll just say hello. We're on now, so forgive me. Grab a link. Bear with me. I was multitasking. There's some shock in the mix. Hi, Edith. We're on now. Oh, and there she is. Okay, good. That helped. All righty. Hello, Edith. Welcome. I can see you in the... in the back room there, backstage. And if you wanna just give me a thumbs up when you're ready to come on. Can you hear me? Looks like she might not be. Can you guys hear me? I'm assuming you can hear me and the mic is better.
Who is Dr. Edith Ubuntu‑Chan and what is her background in consciousness work?
I managed to get it hooked up again. For those of you that know my mic was failing last time and there's Edith and she can't hear anything, unfortunately. OK, so I'm going to say can you jump off and on again? That might fix it. Alrighty. And sound is excellent. Good, good and good. Thank you for that feedback. Much appreciated. And yeah, so she's going to jump off and on again. That's good. Nice. So I will just preview a little bit for the Beth of Fresh Air coming up this week. I have received an advanced copy of a book written by a woman that I shared a cult with back in my India days. I think you guys have heard me talk about it a little bit. It's come up here and there. Sometimes I'll even quote that guy.
And so I'm going to go deep into that on the Bath of Fresh Air this Friday. And Dr. Edith is back in the backstage. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me? No? That's so weird. Everybody else, okay. The chat says they can hear me. Can you check your settings in StreamYard? It's the gear button at the bottom of the screen. All right, so while Edith is figuring out her this and that, Yeah, so I got an advanced copy of this book about what was going on there. And, you know, I left that cult when I was really sick with a stage four lymphoma. I wouldn't have left at that point, but it was exactly the time when the news came out about the abuse that had been taking place in that world. And it's a shocker anyway.
Hello, Edith, can you hear me now? Can you hear me? It's not looking like it. Oh, woo is a yes. Okay, thumbs up. Excellent. All right. So without further ado, I will bring Edith on. Hello and welcome, Edith.
Hello.
Oh, and I can hear you too. Nice to be with you too. Yeah, I don't know what that glitch can be. There's always a glitch of some kind, but I'm glad you're here. Nice to see you. Nice to have you here. Yeah, thank you.
We got the whole green nature vibe going, both of us. I love it.
Yeah, it looks like you're outside. Whereabouts are you located?
I'm in Novato, California, like half an hour north of San Francisco.
North of San Francisco. Okay. Yes. I might be going through San Francisco in August to see Joel Schaefer for his workshop.
I'm going to go there too.
Are you really? No kidding.
And listen to them and talk with them. Amazing. Yeah.
Right. Right. Right.
Don't tell everybody in case it fills up though. I haven't officially registered yet. I should do that today.
Yeah, us neither. We need to look into the travel. It's going to probably be a little insane from here, but we'll see how it goes. But anyway, welcome. Your mic is a little bit quiet. I don't know if there's anything you can do on your end or even- I can grab headphones.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why does the episode start with technical difficulties and a delayed guest appearance?
1:03–3:14
2
Who is Dr. Edith Ubuntu‑Chan and what is her background in consciousness work?
3:14–8:02
3
What was the 2003 meditation experience that launched Edith’s lifelong exploration?
8:02–12:38
4
What is the relationship between telepathy, intuition and direct knowing in this practice?
12:38–14:10
5
How do David Hawkins’ and Lester Levinson’s maps of consciousness relate to this work?
14:10–22:14
6
How does blindfold vision (mindsight) work and what does it feel like?
22:14–26:15
7
How are blindfold vision techniques applied to families, children and whole‑family programs?
26:15–38:14
8
What are the next steps for listeners who want to experience or support this work?
38:14–1:27:44
Speakers
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